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hifiguy

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82. Putting that blithering nitwit in charge of a country

Reply to Skittles (Reply #76)

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:00 PM

Nov 2015

was like giving bottles of whiskey and keys to a Ferrari to teenaged boys. Nothing good could or did come of it.

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From what Obama just said sounds like we are at war. [View all] leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 OP

We've been at war, but what did he say that made you think that. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #1

We've been at play war, remote war, for something like 95% of the US.* MH1 Nov 2015 #57

No, this is not WWIII backscatter712 Nov 2015 #63

I think it is not so simple to "wipe ISIS off planet Earth" MH1 Nov 2015 #70

Not necessary. Just round up their bankers. We know who they are. We failed to do this on 9/11 leveymg Nov 2015 #96

Drop the mic, mg. hifiguy Nov 2015 #98

Funny thing about that. Some guy named John Kerry wrote a book about that. MH1 Nov 2015 #99

Let's not get ahead of ourselves; we're still fighting WWI Scootaloo Nov 2015 #102

How could it possibly be like WW II? It's almost a sure bet that non-state actors are the perps n/ eridani Nov 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #2

Western civilization has been at war since Bush's illegal war and occupation in 2003 malaise Nov 2015 #3

He's the one who started all of this. philosslayer Nov 2015 #7

He is? From Illinois? I could have sworn we were mired in the Middle East before January 2009. merrily Nov 2015 #25

"he" is Bush, not Obama Takket Nov 2015 #36

Thank you. My bad. Second yooge mistake. Maybe I should take a break. merrily Nov 2015 #38

ME stuff has been going on my entire life and with few solutions. It's like a RKP5637 Nov 2015 #127

Bush did not "start" all of this. His idiotic, ham-fisted foreign policy Marr Nov 2015 #103

GW Bush.....elected 2001, and yet: EX500rider Nov 2015 #110

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We all know that but this mess malaise Nov 2015 #10

Is that when it all started? I was wondering...thanks. nt clarice Nov 2015 #74

Try 1947 in Palestine. brush Nov 2015 #128

Go's back a little further....say 570AD, Mecca, Saudi Arabia EX500rider Nov 2015 #137

shit randys1 Nov 2015 #4

It's coming here again too. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #5

That's been really concerning me, is this the start of an escalation. They see no risk in RKP5637 Nov 2015 #129

Who are "these guys"? philosslayer Nov 2015 #6

Who knows what grievance they think they have? PatrickforO Nov 2015 #16

My point is... philosslayer Nov 2015 #17

I know. War sucks and should be banned. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #20

France is doing all these things you mention yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #40

When did the War on Terror stop? We stopped using the term, but the war itself never ended. merrily Nov 2015 #29

It's not "these guys". ISIS has taken credit for the attacks brush Nov 2015 #138

Yeah, or maybe someone drew a cartoon they didnt like. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #31

Here's my bet. Igel Nov 2015 #95

Or just maybe they REALLY want to have a Caliphate across the middle east snooper2 Nov 2015 #140

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #148

This is their flag AngryAmish Nov 2015 #23

In other words they are batshit crazy theocratic barbarians hifiguy Nov 2015 #60

BINGO !!!!!!! nt clarice Nov 2015 #75

"I wonder if the Russians have tactical nukes." EX500rider Nov 2015 #111

Wasn't sure. hifiguy Nov 2015 #112

No doubt there.....gloves off so to speak EX500rider Nov 2015 #113

sometimes there is no flag. It is just western colonialism's latest pushback against us. CTyankee Nov 2015 #24

This has been going on much longer than that . TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #116

History predates "western colonialism" 1939 Nov 2015 #133

Of course, between the battle of Tours (732) and Los Navas de Tolosa (1212), Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #139

And what was that in response too ? TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #141

You're the guy who asked if this was a false flag Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #86

A war against terror? nt CJCRANE Nov 2015 #9

Hopefully Western and Eastern civilization. plus5mace Nov 2015 #11

Political Islam (MB, Daesh, etc) was already at war with the secular West Yorktown Nov 2015 #12

As if the West were not at war with the Middle East for decades? merrily Nov 2015 #37

They also have been at war with each other hifiguy Nov 2015 #41

So, you're saying they're just bad people? What was our excuse? merrily Nov 2015 #44

Nope. Just the worst of universal human nature hifiguy Nov 2015 #45

Ok. What was our excuse? merrily Nov 2015 #46

Oil and imperialism fueled by corporatism/fascism hifiguy Nov 2015 #48

Add in holding brown people in lower esteem than people who look more like our powerful people do. merrily Nov 2015 #51

Meh. Money and imperialism, then oil, are the hifiguy Nov 2015 #55

Meh. Add in holding brown people in lower esteem. merrily Nov 2015 #61

Oh PLEEEEEEEZZZZZZ. Peddle that shit somewhere else. Shame on you. nt clarice Nov 2015 #77

Right back at you, clarice! merrily Nov 2015 #81

In the 20th century the West was far more violent than the Muslim world cpwm17 Nov 2015 #49

Funny how none of these monsters mention the historical arc of which you speak. randome Nov 2015 #56

"There is no excuse for deliberately murdering innocent people." cpwm17 Nov 2015 #69

If you're trying to draw equivalence between the U.S. and the Middle East, I don't see it. randome Nov 2015 #73

We should not start wars or support those that do. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #92

So you're still saying that killing 150 Parisians is in revenge for Iraq. randome Nov 2015 #115

There has been no finding that the hospital was intentionally targeted mythology Nov 2015 #117

I'm mostly concerned about US behavior because that's what we have control over. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #124

But, America! I can hear it now. We have to be the leader of the world, no matter what. ladyVet Nov 2015 #134

+ 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 NT. clarice Nov 2015 #78

More Muslims have been by Muslims than anyone else over the last 100 years. snagglepuss Nov 2015 #85

This is a false equivalence. btrflykng9 Nov 2015 #123

I was just noting that claims of the Muslim world being so violent are exaggerated. n/t cpwm17 Nov 2015 #125

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #150

+1 btrflykng9 Nov 2015 #153

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #149

You appear to confuse Islam with the Middle East Yorktown Nov 2015 #143

I know Christian, Muslim & Jewish Arabs and Muslims who are not from the Middle East. I am clear. merrily Nov 2015 #145

they're also at war with moderate Islam and Shia Muslims. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #62

There is quite a bunch of Shia extremists too Yorktown Nov 2015 #144

WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR SINCE EARLY 2014. We didn't take them seriously. We even armed Islamists LittleBlue Nov 2015 #13

Cheney and the Chimp lost 363 TONS of CASH hifiguy Nov 2015 #21

It's making me angry reading that LittleBlue Nov 2015 #39

That's true. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #54

I have to ask what the average airman/woman hifiguy Nov 2015 #68

They were mostly conservative or not political, at least the white members. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #79

He just said we would do whatever is necessary. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #14

War then, war now, war forever. hifiguy Nov 2015 #15

Putin has already started. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #18

France started bombing ISIS in Syria back in September magical thyme Nov 2015 #146

I didn't realize that until I saw some articles on it leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #147

just looking ahead a move 6chars Nov 2015 #58

A shitstorm is going to rain on their heads. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2015 #19

Please enlighten me... philosslayer Nov 2015 #22

ISIS n/t Bonhomme Richard Nov 2015 #26

so what do you propose? philosslayer Nov 2015 #27

The countries in that region need to get their shit together and.. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2015 #30

You're the one screaming about the 'shitstorm' philosslayer Nov 2015 #34

The last time that happened was the glory days of the hifiguy Nov 2015 #42

Yeah, Republicans are always going on about sultanates and caliphates, too. merrily Nov 2015 #47

The US basically stepped into the shoes of the British hifiguy Nov 2015 #52

Those nations are millennia older than the US. We have "root causes" that date back to 1607 that merrily Nov 2015 #59

Well, we don't behead people with swords any more hifiguy Nov 2015 #66

Hiroshima, Nagasaki, napalm, Abu Ghraib, etc..... so more noble and civilized? merrily Nov 2015 #71

It's not patriotic vanity to objectively say we are not the same, is it? randome Nov 2015 #72

Humans are what they are - hairless apes. hifiguy Nov 2015 #80

I believe the "correct" answer is that we're worse and all of the problems there are due to the west PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #88

Not one of these monsters claimed a sense of revenge. randome Nov 2015 #114

Or stone women leftynyc Nov 2015 #105

And, thankfully, the "witch theory of causation" hifiguy Nov 2015 #107

Those countries are so broken leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #43

This would be a very complicated war. The_Casual_Observer Nov 2015 #28

Isn't it always in the Middle East? leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #32

Wars have been complicated since World War II. Once people took off uniforms merrily Nov 2015 #50

more intervention will only end well! this time's the charm! MisterP Nov 2015 #53

Always, and everywhere they go they bring their problems with them. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #151

It might be time to close the borders here too. NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #33

We haven't been trying to do that? Oh, my. merrily Nov 2015 #64

agree 100%. 840high Nov 2015 #84

Get out of the Middle East!!! Close certain immigration NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #35

Certain immigration customs? What does that mean? merrily Nov 2015 #67

We're going to have to be a little tight on immigration NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #93

Repeating a vague statement doesn't make it clearer or answer my question. Please be specific. merrily Nov 2015 #97

The U.S. will have to stop people from these countries with these terrorist ties from entering the NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #130

You'd close our borders based on national origin? Didn't we do something like that back in the merrily Nov 2015 #131

And the idiocy continues... nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #65

it's what happens when you let a nitwit like Dubya poke a stick into the hornet's nest Skittles Nov 2015 #76

Putting that blithering nitwit in charge of a country hifiguy Nov 2015 #82

as much as I detest the people who voted for IWR Skittles Nov 2015 #89

Those guys for sure managed to make things much worse. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #91

Article 5. [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #83

WWIII is only a matter of time at this point. Initech Nov 2015 #87

WWIII started with the invasion of Iraq. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #90

Not so sure about that. hifiguy Nov 2015 #94

Yep Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #109

This incident is going to change things significantly. DCBob Nov 2015 #100

It's going to have a big effect on the political makeup of Europe as well, I expect. Marr Nov 2015 #106

Most likely. NYCButterfinger Nov 2015 #118

Oh boy, we get to use some of those weapons we bought from the military industrial complex liberal N proud Nov 2015 #101

Let the Russians do the necessary dirty work. hifiguy Nov 2015 #108

And the French. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #119

I am as well. hifiguy Nov 2015 #121

France is a member of NATO. The US will be involved in whatever the next step is. n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #120

Yep. That's a safe bet. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #122

Bu,,, but we have to support the military industrial complex liberal N proud Nov 2015 #126

This entire situation is tragic. For the French victims, obviously-- but also for Syrian refugees. Marr Nov 2015 #104

So why can't we just let them have what they want? ladyVet Nov 2015 #135

Let ISIS have what they want? Marr Nov 2015 #136

Isn't that how Hitler got out of control ? TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #142

Exactly. They aren't going to stop with having power over a few poor, piddly little countries in smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #152