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gordyfl

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Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:20 AM

Nov 2015

I thought these were all great posts on this thread. A lot of independent thinkers who don't allow the media pundits and politicians do their thinking for them.

War is a serious matter. Bombing is war, even if you define it as Special Operations, Providing Air Support, whatever. Before any country bombs another country ALL the consequences and repercussions should be considered. The U.S., Russia, France, Great Britain have participated in creating quagmires in the Middle East, and surrounding areas. All for what? Is it really worth it?

I heard Bernie Sanders say in the first debate that Russia would be caught in a quagmire in Syria. I heard some moans coming from the audience. Not many, but some. This was before the Russian airliner was blown up.

I think our leaders should think, think, think before getting us involved in wars around the world.

I believe we should focus on building and repairing bridges here at home, instead of destroying bridges around the world.

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Am I the only one thinking the best response to the Paris attacks is an intelligence response? [View all] backscatter712 Nov 2015 OP

That sounds about right Turbineguy Nov 2015 #1

I agree with you gwheezie Nov 2015 #2

I agree the Hatfield & McCoy tactics aren't working, however napi21 Nov 2015 #3

new ones will just step in: we only have delusions of omnipotence, not actual power MisterP Nov 2015 #4

"new ones will just step in" tecelote Nov 2015 #14

That is exactly what we have been doing. -none Nov 2015 #35

The first impulse is to hit back Warpy Nov 2015 #5

True - but as we are finding out more and more BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #6

I agree. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #7

+1 tecelote Nov 2015 #16

Agree. Osama Bin Laden tried and convicted, sentenced to life in prison would have been better peacebird Nov 2015 #27

OBL would have talked and implicated some very important people PeoViejo Nov 2015 #30

Yes. That is why he had to be assasinated instead of tried. peacebird Nov 2015 #32

If you follow the rat down the hole PeoViejo Nov 2015 #33

The best response is an investigative response.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #8

There is no mystery to solve here. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #11

How much more spying can we have? CJCRANE Nov 2015 #13

Domestic spying obviously is not working very well. -none Nov 2015 #37

yeah, there's nothing wrong with ISIS that a few hugs and gift baskets won't fix nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #40

This country helped create them. -none Nov 2015 #57

But not HERE.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #46

Only because Pakistani intelligence was sheltering bin Laden. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #49

I keep thinking about an enforcement arm for International Law. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #53

That's a very good point about international law. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #54

I picture an elite force with full access to local records. They would NOT be a hit team.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #59

Yep. That's what intelligence agencies are for. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #45

We need to expand INTERPOL beyond it's role as a mere database. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #47

The best response is to arrest the war criminals in the West malaise Nov 2015 #9

This is so true Abouttime Nov 2015 #21

I agree. Send Bush, Cheney, Blair, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al to the Hague for war crimes tribunal. peacebird Nov 2015 #28

Yes, this is what needs to occur. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #52

"Where was this response when Bush was killing thousands of Iraqi innocents?" oberliner Nov 2015 #26

We were called traitors and worse for marching against the war. We knew what was coming w IWR peacebird Nov 2015 #29

Money to be made, peacebird. Octafish Nov 2015 #38

Sadly you are correct. peacebird Nov 2015 #39

very good start SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2015 #55

Too many people fall back to the idea of collective punishment. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #60

the civil liberties debate there ought to be interesting nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #10

I agree. polly7 Nov 2015 #12

No, you're not the only one jberryhill Nov 2015 #15

Intelligence without the ability to destroy the fountainhead is useless. Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #17

Absolutely PeoViejo Nov 2015 #31

I have never understood the reluctance to assassinate enemy leadership. razorman Nov 2015 #18

We have been picking off their leaders for hundreds of years malaise Nov 2015 #24

The CIA is too busy spying on the likes of us nt LiberalEsto Nov 2015 #19

No, but it will be a military response. bigwillq Nov 2015 #20

"no wonder the US leads the world in gun violence" EX500rider Nov 2015 #62

Ok. bigwillq Nov 2015 #63

We'll be doing good if we just get an INTELLIGENT response. Maeve Nov 2015 #22

I firmly believe that you are right. n/t Mister Ed Nov 2015 #23

Think in terms of rewards and punishments. Igel Nov 2015 #25

No you are not the only one LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #34

Kudos to All on This Thread gordyfl Nov 2015 #36

No, it's not just you. winter is coming Nov 2015 #41

Stop calling them ISIS or ISIL, call them DAESH instead Electric Monk Nov 2015 #42

Works for me. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #44

All I can hope for is sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #43

Well, unlike trolls on the WWW you cannot just ignore ISIS. Seems to make the problem worse. Rex Nov 2015 #48

No, you are not. Better and more intense intelligence-gathering will help... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #50

Well, that's a given. Anytime any member of Daesh is identified, kill him. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #51

We need to step up the game on renewable energy and domestic oil supplies daleo Nov 2015 #56

sigh. If only we could claim to be intelligent. librechik Nov 2015 #58

This is exactly the response that was called for after 9-11. Stevepol Nov 2015 #61

There are at least two of us. immoderate Nov 2015 #64

I suspect that is exactly how French authorities hifiguy Nov 2015 #65