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33. I wonder what Islam will rename France

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Sat Nov 14, 2015, 12:47 PM

Nov 2015

Will they keep the Eiffel Tower?

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Do you want vengeance or peace? Because you cannot have both [View all] nadine_mn Nov 2015 OP

My heart is torn Kalidurga Nov 2015 #1

1000% correct. When Democrats "ignore" rightwing bully bullshit it encourages them. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #32

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Are you implying that the OP suggested this? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #5

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People with that kind of mindset won't stop with just that. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #6

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They have in the past. Igel Nov 2015 #18

Apparently you can live as a Jew in a Caliphate as long as you pay a big tax snooper2 Nov 2015 #30

Assimilate. Resistance is futile. redwitch Nov 2015 #17

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The world isn't black or white. Vengeance or Peace. That's for bumper stickers FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #7

I am sorry you see it as so black and white nadine_mn Nov 2015 #31

The dichotomy is not black and white Fairgo Nov 2015 #71

+1 nt GliderGuider Nov 2015 #72

+1, Fortune cookie wisdom isn't productive. Marr Nov 2015 #73

usually Skittles Nov 2015 #74

I wonder if Conservatives will be putting French Fries back on the menu? marble falls Nov 2015 #10

Thank you for a sane reply to this mess. tecelote Nov 2015 #11

I share in your view. 99Forever Nov 2015 #12

I simply want them found and stopped. Mister Ed Nov 2015 #13

We can want peace all we wish but if ISIS insists on vengeance we are foolish children hoping CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #14

That isn't a convincing argument Depaysement Nov 2015 #15

The reality of the world is that some folks just need killing... Marengo Nov 2015 #16

Lets just dispense with such niceties as due process, shall we? /sarcasm/ - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #21

Is this a parody account? geek tragedy Nov 2015 #41

Are you a parody of Sophocles? I take it KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #43

Yes, as does anyone who has ever taken a history class and who is geek tragedy Nov 2015 #44

and what about those 500,000 Iraqi children during the 90s? Did they also KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #45

No, of course not. You should take a remedial course in logic geek tragedy Nov 2015 #47

you might wish to take a remedial course in the KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #51

I have a law degree, and it is patently obvious you have no idea what due process geek tragedy Nov 2015 #53

sure you do - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #56

Your welcome to serve arrest warrants to the Daesh soldiers in their fighting postions... Marengo Nov 2015 #77

please show me where the U.s. Congress has declared war. Until then you should probly KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #79

Only in cloud cuckoo land is it not a battlefield... Marengo Nov 2015 #86

For those of you say "They have to be stopped"... DAngelo136 Nov 2015 #19

excellent questions. to which I would add only: if you KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #22

Since ISIS' goal is a caliphate across Europe, I doubt that leaving them alone will work. randome Nov 2015 #24

+1000 Agreed smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #26

A contrarian alternative: put Bush, Cheney and the entire Bush Junta on trial for war crimes and cri KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #27

You know I would have no problem with that at all. randome Nov 2015 #34

I'll try to answer as best I can. Mister Ed Nov 2015 #64

You theory that the bully only bullies because his victims fight back is sort of twisted. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #20

France bombed Syria first, if we are looking for first causes. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #23

And yet ISIS claims Paris was targeted because it is "a capital of prostitution and obscenity". randome Nov 2015 #25

This scum will always find a reason. They want to conquer Europe. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #28

So they picked vengence. But 'first causes' are basically a matter of when you start the timeline. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #67

Well, the military historian in me would say they (the irregulars in the assault) engaged in KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #68

I want peace, but I also want the killing and retaliatory killing to end davidpdx Nov 2015 #29

I wonder what Islam will rename France obliviously Nov 2015 #33

ISIS wants Spain, which was once part of Islam. France is Hortensis Nov 2015 #46

I don't know, that is an awful lot to mow! obliviously Nov 2015 #60

ISIS must be planning to swing the sword of Islam round the clock. Hortensis Nov 2015 #65

I don't know, i'm torn pinebox Nov 2015 #35

Um, the US didn't join WW2 until Pear Harbor in 1942 so it actually took a few years for the world Metric System Nov 2015 #57

I'm well aware however this has been going on for a "few years" now pinebox Nov 2015 #59

Unfortunately doing nothing will not stop ISIS Marrah_G Nov 2015 #36

But declaring war is exactly the result they want nadine_mn Nov 2015 #82

There has to be war to stop them Marrah_G Nov 2015 #87

I want neither vengeance or peace WestCoastLib Nov 2015 #37

That is the problem, I want peace but ISIS wants revenge. Rex Nov 2015 #38

It's clear that if we do nothing, we won't have peace LittleBlue Nov 2015 #39

So, we just bow down before Daesh and proclaim our fealty and beg them geek tragedy Nov 2015 #40

Could you point where I said or even suggested that? nadine_mn Nov 2015 #50

You said you opposed armed force against terrorists who want to conquer territory. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #52

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #42

The best vengeance would be peace. Liberal Veteran Nov 2015 #48

I think it's important to say "crime" and not "war." Ron Green Nov 2015 #49

Agree. hay rick Nov 2015 #76

Fuck it. I want vengeance. Peace is impossible with Daesh head-choppers. But do it smart. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #54

You cannot have peace, period. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #55

Sort of like the US did in Iraq, you mean? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #58

Victory. Throd Nov 2015 #61

The question is whether we can have peace at all. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #62

That is the question. Rex Nov 2015 #63

If one side in a conflict refuses all options but violence, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #69

Agree, I am not a violent person by nature Rex Nov 2015 #80

Standing down won't work... Whiskeytide Nov 2015 #66

There has never been peace at any time throughout all of human history Kaleva Nov 2015 #70

Peace, always. I don't know how we get there but war isn't it. Avalux Nov 2015 #75

I feel like war has been the go to answer for too long nadine_mn Nov 2015 #81

Peace . . . but how do you get there? Vinca Nov 2015 #78

America is hopelessly dependent on a war economy marions ghost Nov 2015 #83

you are so right and it just makes me sad that we have generations nadine_mn Nov 2015 #84

War is the backdrop of our lives marions ghost Nov 2015 #85

If you think appeasement will mellow the ISIS hearts, you are mistaken Yorktown Nov 2015 #88