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totodeinhere

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38. Sometimes what seems like a logical policy in that region has unintended consequences.

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:07 PM

Nov 2015

I can think of two undesirable possibilities. First of all, such a policy could drive the Saudis into the open arms of the Russians and the Saudis would only increase their brutal tactics toward women, gays and guest workers.

Or worse yet, withholding our support could result in the toppling of the regime only to be replaced by something much worse such as total chaos which would allow that area to be taken over by the likes of ISIS.

I know your OP means well. Yes, it is a very frustrating situation. But be careful what you wish for. I think you need to think this through a bit more.

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It's time to cut all ties and end all cooperation with the House of Saud [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2015 OP

So hard to do n2doc Nov 2015 #1

Like what? elias49 Nov 2015 #6

IS, to the tune of about $1.5B/year. leveymg Nov 2015 #13

Amen. Follow the money. Sienna86 Nov 2015 #2

I know a woman that worked there for a year with her husband. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #3

What did she say it was like? smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #19

the propagation of a faith should be illegal. tomp Nov 2015 #4

This is more about politics than about religion starroute Nov 2015 #18

Good post. The collapse of Saudi Arabia's royal family, and Hortensis Nov 2015 #50

Good insight! burrowowl Nov 2015 #66

Their little tactic is killing Alaska's budget. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #68

Dangerous nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #33

+1000. Hortensis Nov 2015 #51

"Fire!" in a crowded movie theater? tomp Nov 2015 #72

People always get that quotation wrong. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #73

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #5

Time to keep pushing them to provide the ground troops needed in their area of the world. Sunlei Nov 2015 #7

They aren't bombing Isis. Most of the gulf countries dropped out after the first few photo ops. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #29

Saudis have 100 jets in the coalition. Saudis need to lead the ground troops needed in places Sunlei Nov 2015 #40

I'm pretty sure they're bombing Yemen instead. I haven't seen anything CJCRANE Nov 2015 #41

doesn't matter it took months to get the SA to even start with 100 jets regular missions. Sunlei Nov 2015 #46

Too bad they don't all fight like the Kurds. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #69

It was time a long time ago Demeter Nov 2015 #8

Now that would upend the world as we know it. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #9

If any world needs an upending, it's this one. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #11

But not getting all that oil will cause gas prices to go up at least a dime a gallon....will Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #10

It would be more than a dime. Way more. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #21

Of course Iran now in the game and Iraq always willing and sometimes able and with green energy Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #22

we can buy cheap crude from africa and places like south america/russia, they beg for customers & Sunlei Nov 2015 #43

Better to get off Venezuela's case then to keep appeasing the House of Saud. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #53

+1000 blackspade Nov 2015 #12

YES. How do you stop war & senseless violence? STOP FUNDING IT! reformist2 Nov 2015 #14

President Carter told us more than 35 years ago... SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2015 #15

And Carter was right. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #16

Great post, and an issue nyabingi Nov 2015 #17

Free Raif Badawi & Other Political Prisoners! Herman4747 Nov 2015 #20

K & R Duppers Nov 2015 #23

The US economy would be severely damaged oberliner Nov 2015 #24

Since the economy pretty much sucks for the bottom TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #25

Wouldn't the bottom 80 percent be hurt the most? oberliner Nov 2015 #31

Can you please elaborate on that? riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #27

Rise in prices for consumer goods oberliner Nov 2015 #30

I don't think there's any recent studies on the economic impact riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #32

I think the PTB are more worried that if we unfriend them, then the Russians and Chinese CJCRANE Nov 2015 #34

The Chinese and Russians have allied with Shia Islam riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #35

I'm not sure they act with no regard for their population, they just have a more communitarian CJCRANE Nov 2015 #36

Very true riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #37

Nothing is so cut and dried in that region. I think it's possible that if the Russians see an totodeinhere Nov 2015 #39

There aren't many international relationships that are black and white riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #45

Seizure of Saudi assets would be extremely popular as would leveymg Nov 2015 #47

Yemeni children should not pay the costs for our "cheap" gas Scootaloo Nov 2015 #49

Great Idea but I don't think it's going to happen. PeoViejo Nov 2015 #26

Well, we certainly agree on that point. tabasco Nov 2015 #28

Sometimes what seems like a logical policy in that region has unintended consequences. totodeinhere Nov 2015 #38

I agree ... mostly ashling Nov 2015 #42

"We KNOW the blood of the Paris dead MAY be on their hands." Come again? n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #44

We need to go one step further meow2u3 Nov 2015 #48

I agree with Charles Pierce. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #64

Well said TTUBatfan2008 Nov 2015 #52

Yes. SoapBox Nov 2015 #54

Wishful thinking. thebighobgoblin Nov 2015 #55

We are the paid mercenaries in that part of the world packman Nov 2015 #56

Wrong!! SereneG Nov 2015 #57

They're more afraid of cheap gas. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #58

If they were scared of it, they wouldn't be funding it. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #59

Like the GOP establishment of the Tea Party. ErikJ Nov 2015 #62

Members of the Saudi royal family own Fox News. Initech Nov 2015 #60

I always found that kind of funny Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #70

k&r DesertRat Nov 2015 #61

Agreed. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #63

From what I've been reading, Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #71

Agree wholeheartedly. One correction though about "jihad" Yorktown Nov 2015 #65

Yesterday. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #67