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happyslug

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104. The US was only importing 10% of our need in 1973
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:02 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:39 PM - Edit history (2)

And most of that was from Mexico and Venezuela in 1973, yet the US ended up with gas lines. A 5% drop in world wide oil production would be enough to cause a shortage and that would drive up prices till enough people stop buying oil. The problem is the group of people who will stop buying oil when the price gets to high are US minimun wage workers. That is what happened in 2008, the price of oil reached the point where American minimum wage earners were reaching the point where they choice was food or fuel to get to work. They were reaching the point where they had no money for anything else, except rent and utilites and when rent and utilities are not paid they have no home.

I did the calculation at that time and if someone was earning minimum wage and living in public housing and drove to and from work (which most minimum wage earners do for the jobs are in the suburbs NOT the inner cities and such jobs do not have public transit at the times these workers need it for example janitors who get off work one or two o'clock in the morning) the price of gasoline reaches minimum wage the choice, once rent and utilities are paid is limited to food or fuel. They do not have enough money for both and pay their rent and utilities.

At present that the the "cap" on oil prices. Once that group can no longer afford fuel they stop buying gasoline and demand for oil drops. Most Americans earn more then minimum wage but it is an example of how a mere change in just 5% of demand or supply will lead to change of increasing oil price to a decreasing fuel prices and vica versa.

Please note exporting countries report exporting about 5% more oil then importing counties report being imported. While no one admits it, the difference appears to be fuel used by the US Military. Unless the oil actually enters US territory the US does not report it as an import. At the same time those imports into US bases overseas are NOT reportedvby those nations as imports. Thus that oil is counted by no one as imports.

Most of that "lost" oil is from the mid east to Europe, Japan and other areas with US bases. Thus the US is buying more then the 13% of middle east oil the US is admitting to importing. There is an old saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure" watch certain cited statistics, make sure the stat is saying what you think it is saying. The 13% importing number is accurate but excludes that missing 5%. Worse that 5% is on world wide oil exports while the 13% is on US imports only. That 5% may triple US buying of mid east oil.

I bring up the above for oil can be shipped almost anywhere to the highest bidder. Thus if we cut off mid east oil will Europe, Japan, Korea and China not out bid the US for Mexican, Venezuela, Canadian and Russian oil? I think the answer is a yes. Worse do we want Europe and Japan dependent on Russian oil? I suspect that answer is NO, so the US will agree to export even US oil to Europe, Japan and Korea. Thus the US price for gasoline will hit $10 a gallon for the US will HAVE to adopt whatever is the world wide price of oil will be. Any effort to end the funding of these radicals will require at least a boycott of Persian Gulf oil. Given the subsequent drop in supply from the Middle East, US minimum wage earners will no longer be the price "cap" on the price of oil world wide. Thus I am looking at $10 a gallon and that is just a guess.

Thus my first choice is a five dollar a gallon gasoline tax. It provides the incentive to get Americans to buy less oil and the revenue to fund alternatives to oil base transportation. It would be the first step in any effort to end funding to these radicals, but I suspect a US invasion will also be required, an invasion of the northeast part of Saudi Arabia for that is where the oil is.

Here is the my calculations on Minimum Wage Workers:

1. Minimum wage is $7.15 per hour
2. In a 40 hour work week, 52 weeks in a year, the work year is 2080 hours (40 hours x 52 = 2080).
3. A minimum wage worker thus earns only $14,872 per year (2080 hours x 7.15 per hour).
4. If such a worker is in public housing, he or she MUST pay 30% of total income for rent and utilities (and Utilities are defined as heat, electricity, water, sewerage and garbage disposal only). Thus a Minimum Wage Worker must pay $4461.60 in rent ($14,872 x .30), that leaves $10,401.40 for all other bills).
5. Breakfast can be had for $2 a day, Lunch $3 a day, dinner $5 a day, thus a typical person living inexpensive, but cost effective lifestyle will spend $10 a day for food, which comes to $3650 a year. That reduces money for everything else to $6760,40.
6. Minimum wage earners pay Social Security Taxes, 7% of income and State and local Taxes. In my state that comes to 5.07% (3.07% for the State of Pennsylvania, 2% for the local Government). Thus 12.7% of any minimum wage worker income is reduced by such taxes, even when the Federal Government says such income is 'Tax Free' for federal income tax purposes. Remember this is 12.07 of TOTAL income or the $14,872 above. That taxes paid is $1795.05. That leaves $4965.35 for everything except food, housing and taxes.
7. The typical driver of a car drives about 15,000 miles a year, the Insurance companies say 12,000. I notice I drive about 20,000 miles myself.
8. The average car in the US gets about 20 miles to the gallon. Most low income people end up buying five to ten year old cars, often older. Till the last few years that was the average car for NEW cars, thus today (2015) you are finally seeing some of the better fuel economy car getting to low income people. The problem is people from East Asia and Southern Europe will pay more for a small cars then will Americans so many US small cars end up in those two places when they hit 10 years of age. Thus Low Income Americans end up buying mid size or large cars for those are NOT popular overseas (except in South American and the Mid East, but both are low volume car buyer areas).
9. The typical car of a Minimum Wage American worker gets 20 miles to gallon and he travels 15,000 miles a year. 15,000 miles divided by 20 mile per gallon comes to 750 gallons of gasoline that person uses in a year.
10. $4965.35, the income after rent and food, divided by 750 gallons equals about $6.20 a gallon.
11. If we look at INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE etc of a car that runs at least $1000 a year (minimum coverage). That drop the income available for fuel to $3965.35 or about $5.29 a gallon.

As I mentioned, the above ignores anything else a person may want to buy, like clothing, shoes etc. Such a person gets almost NO food stamps, for at full time minimum wage, food stamps tends to drop to Zero (if Children are involved, continues to higher income, but at reduced rate so at minimum wage Food Stamps for such children do NOT equal what such children eat, all of this is to keep Federal Spending down). Under ACA most minimum wage workers have some health care through welfare, but NO welfare cash benefits.

Please note most of the Vehicles Minimum wage workers are driving are marginal. My father use to call them inspection specials, good from one inspection to the next (At the second inspection something major has to be replaced, brakes, springs etc). Thus such workers end up trading in the old car for one that passes inspection this year OR coming up with the money to get the car repaired enough to pass inspection. That money comes out of the money for fuel.

Thus in 2008, such workers started to drop out of the work force as Gasoline went over $4 a gallon. Those other costs, that I ignored in my calculations, came into play.

Just a comment that when Gasoline starts to go up, the "Cap" on the present price of gasoline are the above minimum wage workers and they stop buying well before gasoline gets to $5 a gallon (they stop buying at about $4 a gallon). Thus the top price for Gasoline is $4 a gallon but only for a brief time period.

Right now, the price of oil has been dropping, but that is about reached its bottom. Many of the marginal producers of oil are capping their wells. They can not make profit at these prices and thus no longer selling. Sooner or later we will hit a point where enough of these marginal producers drop out of selling oil, and the subsequent fall in supply will lead to an increase in price. The demand for oil exceeded supply from about 2002 till 2008 and during that period the price of oil slowly increased but hit its limit as for the first time ever (Since 1859 when oil was first drilled for in Pennsylvania) the US actually had a DROP in oil usage. That drop has continued to this day, increasing the pressure on the price of oil to fall. This up and down in prices is typical of an energy source whose price is NOT controlled and the price of oil is NOT controlled today. Thus expect ups and down in price from $2 a gallon to $5 a gallon. That will be the new normal, the days on a price for gasoline lasting for decades is long gone.

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+10 million!!!! Starve the beast riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #1
I've believed for a long time that a law-enforcement approach to terrorism is the right one. phantom power Nov 2015 #2
Yup, it's the only way riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #3
law enforcement is controlled by governments. tomp Nov 2015 #88
Cuz war is most certainly a racket. nt valerief Nov 2015 #98
I so agree... but the right wants blood Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #36
I read this because I like Charlie Pierce, but wasn't expecting to find the answer renate Nov 2015 #4
Had our Veterans/Armistice Day parade here today. Downwinder Nov 2015 #5
I am with you...the day should be Peace Day, not an apology for war, which is what it is. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #16
*Armistice* Day originally promoted peace. Beartracks Nov 2015 #103
.. good luck w that whiles we're still dependent on oil nt flamingdem Nov 2015 #6
Yes. closeupready Nov 2015 #8
Dependent? rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #23
Not yet, the US was expected to be a net exporter but never happened happyslug Nov 2015 #77
solutions? Duppers Nov 2015 #78
I support Five dollar federal gasoline tax. happyslug Nov 2015 #93
Sorry rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #86
The US has been exporting coal since the 1800s happyslug Nov 2015 #92
But only about 13% of our oil now comes from Gulf States riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #100
The US was only importing 10% of our need in 1973 happyslug Nov 2015 #104
And part of the new budget deal.... Capt.Rocky300 Nov 2015 #28
Hmm, then why kiss up to the Saudis flamingdem Nov 2015 #30
Not at all. The despots in SA need us to stay in power. Ikonoklast Nov 2015 #71
Sounds good, but how do you make that happen? closeupready Nov 2015 #7
I think it starts by letting people know what we want. phantom power Nov 2015 #17
Kerry was able to do it to BCCI Mnpaul Nov 2015 #47
Terrific! You're getting at the very root of the problem, and want to yank it completely out. Akamai Nov 2015 #9
Nixon's offer was to the SOUTH Vietnam Government happyslug Nov 2015 #76
You are correct! I got carried away thinking of Nixon's gall. Thanks for Akamai Nov 2015 #87
A sound strategy, but there is just one problem. hifiguy Nov 2015 #10
Are you including Bernie in that? passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #34
I am not absolutely sure, but I tend to think he might be the only person hifiguy Nov 2015 #35
Exactly. No way that government should be our bestest buddy. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #38
Author and former NYT correspondent Steve Kinzer hifiguy Nov 2015 #44
Just based on my limited current knowledge I agree. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #49
Not Ergodan! Demeter Nov 2015 #55
The only war I would support is a full-on bombing of Saudi Arabia. FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #11
If there is an actual locus of evil in the world, hifiguy Nov 2015 #21
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #52
Me too shenmue Nov 2015 #26
The perps would flee and the peons would take it in the shorts. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #50
YES YES YES SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2015 #12
Thanks yet again, Charlie Pierce. (nt) Paladin Nov 2015 #13
It Is Increasingly Clear That HRC Must Withdraw From The 2016 Election For Her Role As A Neocon cantbeserious Nov 2015 #14
It is increasingly clear rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #24
Thank you for posting this! tecelote Nov 2015 #15
KnR for Charles Pierce Hekate Nov 2015 #18
Sounds to me like Charlie is blaming other countries for the problems snappyturtle Nov 2015 #19
well, he did say this... Duppers Nov 2015 #79
When I read that statement the word "until" popped out. That's is snappyturtle Nov 2015 #91
"You can't defeat your enemy if you're arming them and helping them at the same time. Laughing Mirror Nov 2015 #85
Thank you for the excellent video link. nt snappyturtle Nov 2015 #90
A great read. R&K nt longship Nov 2015 #20
It always bothers me when the news talks about capturing oil wells from ISIS salib Nov 2015 #22
There's answers to those questions eom rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #25
Truly the only solution.. . . n/t annabanana Nov 2015 #27
Pierce is one of the sharper pencils in the box. Thanx! nt GliderGuider Nov 2015 #29
Exactly. n2doc Nov 2015 #31
ding, ding, ding!! ^^^^^ +100, n2doc Duppers Nov 2015 #80
Arms sales is the American Way. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #32
Your wrong that it is not driven by faith! og1 Nov 2015 #33
That's not faith. That's politics Catherina Nov 2015 #39
Baloney skepticscott Nov 2015 #41
the religious are always the delusional and the scammed, willing to kill and die. Duppers Nov 2015 #81
I agree. Perhaps its an attempt to shift the blame from religion to politics. olegramps Nov 2015 #95
It is not about religion, bvar22 Nov 2015 #97
Good point. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #101
ISIS is explicitly fundametal/9th century Islamist. hifiguy Nov 2015 #43
This is one of the best things I've read today. N/t Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #37
I thought the same. nt Enthusiast Nov 2015 #57
yes, starving the beast is bloodless and effective restorefreedom Nov 2015 #40
Excellent Post of The Year McKim Nov 2015 #42
Under those crisp, dazzling white Saudi robes Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2015 #45
heck, everyone knows their beheadings and crucifixions are a bit AHEAD of IS MisterP Nov 2015 #46
The problem is that any investigation will most certainly kacekwl Nov 2015 #48
Course it will. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #51
that's why it will never happen Doctor_J Nov 2015 #64
Wow! That is good! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #53
....x10+ 840high Nov 2015 #54
And if governments are unable or unwilling to do this, then maybe citizens should find ways ck4829 Nov 2015 #56
What if money and weapons are coming from Western governments? n/t malaise Nov 2015 #58
agree up until the last paragraph politicman Nov 2015 #59
Hopefully Bernie takes this angle at the debate tonight. Pierce is right yet again. pa28 Nov 2015 #60
Anyone who says "there's only one way" or "it's simple" NuclearDem Nov 2015 #61
We also need to reduce the global demand for oil by massive investment in renewables riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #63
Time indeed to stop. Paka Nov 2015 #62
K&R mountain grammy Nov 2015 #65
Thanks and good post. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #66
Holy crap that is some brilliant writing. blackspade Nov 2015 #67
This is so fucking spot-on, I don't have words. And Charlie isn't the only one who's saying this 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #68
This assumes TPTB want to put ISIS out of business. Pretty naive. Scuba Nov 2015 #69
Problem We Have Is Who Is Listening? ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #70
Wished I could give extra recs for this. Glad I've got the chance! bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #72
Perhaps azureblue Nov 2015 #73
BRAVO! Duppers Nov 2015 #74
200th rec. But, I've been saying this for almost 15 years leveymg Nov 2015 #75
Yes! A thousand times yes! eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #82
People in the middle east paying proper income taxes applegrove Nov 2015 #83
Excellent! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #84
Huge K&R! raouldukelives Nov 2015 #89
Very good thread, with a lot of different perspectives of history, CRH Nov 2015 #94
This is an Article to Send to your Republican firends before Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #96
Charlie is right on target here. n/t DirkGently Nov 2015 #99
Thank you, Charles Pierce for writing this and thank you phantom power, for posting it. K&R Hiraeth Nov 2015 #102
Say It Charlie colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #105
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