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21. Fixing the problem and avoiding the problem are not the same thing

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:51 AM

Nov 2015

I get your point. I think to many people assume that the solution to ISIS is not doing the things that encouraged it in the first place. Disrupting nations ad hoc and relying on commodities from people with agendas will prevents groups like ISIS from emerging in the future, but it is not the contemporary solution for ISIS. It is extant; it has money and material; it has attracted adherents from far beyond its Iraqi roots. And it is committing genocide and other crimes against humanity. Moving to alternative energy will alleviate the problem of similarly radical groups emerging in the future, but that is still years, if not decades, down the road.

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re ISIS: Sometimes turning the other cheek is not an option. [View all] climber3986 Nov 2015 OP

We should stop giving them arms RobertEarl Nov 2015 #1

does not answer the question climber3986 Nov 2015 #4

Well RobertEarl Nov 2015 #6

Israel? 6chars Nov 2015 #16

You think Israel is helping isis? leftynyc Nov 2015 #26

heres a radical and simple idea... politicman Nov 2015 #2

Do you think Vienna was attacked because of US policies? Yorktown Nov 2015 #8

I have a great deal of respect for the Kurds and we should support them more Jim Beard Nov 2015 #9

Problem: political Islam is also making progress among Kurds Yorktown Nov 2015 #15

I still have to stand by the Kurds.... Jim Beard Nov 2015 #35

Well, my fear is Kurds are going the Turkish route Yorktown Nov 2015 #36

This is what I think. politicman Nov 2015 #10

No, because you forget the weight of petrodollars Yorktown Nov 2015 #14

heres a lesson on Islam for you politicman Nov 2015 #17

Sounds more like Protestantism. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #19

True but politicman Nov 2015 #20

Thanks, but I humbly think I'm very knowledgeable about Islam. Yorktown Nov 2015 #23

You are trying to give a lesson in Islam to a Muslim? politicman Nov 2015 #29

Yes. Because the faithful accept things which can be disproven Yorktown Nov 2015 #30

you are wrong yet again. politicman Nov 2015 #31

Sorry, but I can prove you wrong on all three counts Yorktown Nov 2015 #32

My response, politicman Nov 2015 #33

I stand my ground, and provide additional proof Yorktown Nov 2015 #34

Again my response politicman Nov 2015 #38

Again, my objections Yorktown Nov 2015 #40

and yet my response yet again... politicman Nov 2015 #41

Again, again, etc Yorktown Nov 2015 #42

Weird thing is they keep hitting liberal areas. Explain that. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #11

You operate on the false premise that only the US should do anything n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #3

i never said only the us should do something. climber3986 Nov 2015 #5

Oil. Stop using oil & plastics. ffr Nov 2015 #7

You describe what the USA did to Falluja. delrem Nov 2015 #12

Why would I cheerlead for more of it? climber3986 Nov 2015 #24

They are sick sick sick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #13

It doesn't sound like you can be negotiated with either. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #18

There is just the tiniest whiff of the ticking time bomb about the OP... Orsino Nov 2015 #27

Fixing the problem and avoiding the problem are not the same thing Bad Thoughts Nov 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Nov 2015 #22

Tackling issues with childlike simplicity is not an option. marmar Nov 2015 #25

aerial bombing just hits fixed assets and brought IS *into* existence, assassination also helps MisterP Nov 2015 #28

maybe we should stop backing factions that aim to destroy stable governments? killbotfactory Nov 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #39