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Hortensis

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21. The Democratic Party has always had many factions,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:08 PM
Nov 2015

including libertarians who lean more liberal socially, rather than libertarians who lean more conservative socially.

If this faction IS gaining more power at this time it's because of the power money gives them. And what's new about business-friendly factions driving most government policy since conservative economic policy took over the nation in the 1980s?

BTW, TRUE libertarians (not those who just pick a few libertarian ideas that sound good and call themselves libertarian) are a dangerous crowd, to almost everyone individually and to a democratic republic. They range from favoring a fairly mild anarchy with some structure (including dog-eat-dog capitalism), to anarchist, to nihilist.

Since the 1970s many wealthy libertarians have been busy dismantling the national structure built over the past century and more. For that, we can blame our own ignorance. No one knew who the Kochs were, for instance, before a year or two ago, yet over those decades we voted thousands of their and their colleagues' choices into office at literally every level and branch of government throughout the nation.

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It's part of the GOP meltdown + Dem leaders chasing the money Hydra Nov 2015 #1
Let's damp down the anxiety with a quick little point. Hortensis Nov 2015 #24
Hillary has embraced them? Not nearly as much as Bernie. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #2
Do tell, pnwmom Scootaloo Nov 2015 #5
Wait, I thought he was too far left Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #10
please explain. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #16
Your belief is that Bernie is pushing for more H1B visas? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #26
What the hell are you smoking? hifiguy Nov 2015 #40
By "revealing" I think you meant "depressing". n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author TumbleAndJumble Nov 2015 #4
It is depressing and they stayed so well hidden it took me too long to find them. I am glad they Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #18
now, it's not all seasteading freaks--but the DLC was founded to ensure that the party had a steady MisterP Nov 2015 #6
That story is part of the DLC official and authorized history...you really believe all that? HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #13
That is more deception and it is called "spin" by some and these folks are libertarian liars, none Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #20
I read the OP not as a libertarian takeover, but a tech/big city/urban professional takeover pampango Nov 2015 #7
I agree. "Libertarian" might not be exactly the right word for it. Anti-worker is better. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #27
That's not Libertarian. It is crony capitalism n2doc Nov 2015 #8
You got it. Thanks! n/t djean111 Nov 2015 #9
Perfect. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #11
...! KoKo Nov 2015 #12
Yep. A kinder, gentler & more "progressive" fascism. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #15
That "kindness" will only last until they gain power. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #19
What a crock. Darb Nov 2015 #14
libertarians are only that untill they are out of work, then suddenly they are first in line for Javaman Nov 2015 #17
The Democratic Party has always had many factions, Hortensis Nov 2015 #21
False equivalency and spin. True the Democrataic once had Dixie Crats and Anti-War, pro and anti Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #22
Spin? Yes. Let's CAN that, shall we? It's not correct that Hortensis Nov 2015 #23
So according to you inflitering the Democratic party on liberal social issues and hiding their Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #30
Why did any of us choose to "infiltrate" the Democratic Party? Hortensis Nov 2015 #31
Because you are the same folks pushing "both parties are the same" because you want one party only. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #32
"You"? You are mistaken, Illusion. I am a lifelong Hortensis Nov 2015 #36
I was responding to your comment, "why did any of us choose to inflitrate the . . . . and thought it Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #41
Brawl away, then. I think I sounded like a liberal. Hortensis Nov 2015 #44
It is only my opinion, but you sounded like what a conservative defines as a liberal. I don't know Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #45
Lots of people are abandoning the crazy train that is the republicans right now. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #25
Affordable schools that will have no tax support. How are schools going to be affordable with no Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #33
But they love and worship hifiguy Nov 2015 #38
In a way, this doesn't surprise me. The draw bridge is down & the guards are drunk... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #28
I've been posting about democrats unwittingly espousing WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2015 #29
I agree and the few liberal Democratic still around are going to have to do a lot of shouting and Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #34
Have you read "The Internet Is Not the Answer" by Andrew Keen? FSogol Nov 2015 #39
Awesome, I'll go find it at Unabridged Bookstore in Lakeview, Chicago WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2015 #42
Thanks. You reminded men about an earlier crazy scheme, job sharing, the ninties I think. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #43
This battle has already been joined in $iliValley KamaAina Nov 2015 #35
Repubs who can't abide the jebus-wheezers and xenophobes hifiguy Nov 2015 #37
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