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Hortensis

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23. Spin? Yes. Let's CAN that, shall we? It's not correct that

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:28 PM

Nov 2015

people like Southern Democrats told everyone they were flaming bigots but these particular Silicone Valley-type libertarian-leaners we're talking about pretended they were not just what they were. Both groups are real and part of the party, no matter what they say or don't say.

As for libertarian Democrats, nothing new here except that some extras are coming over from a batshit-crazy GOP, which is a good thing overall. Most of the original Democratic libertarians have been socially liberal and economically libertarian (the latter works out as very conservative). Most of the GOP libertarians have been socially more liberal but economically, again, conservative libertarian.

This all means they were "hiding behind" their own ideology all the time. Which is to say, they're not some evil deceiving group pretending to be "you." They're just another faction of the Democratic Party which, like all the others, believes they have the best answers.

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A very revealing article about the libertarian take over of the Democratic [View all] Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 OP

It's part of the GOP meltdown + Dem leaders chasing the money Hydra Nov 2015 #1

Let's damp down the anxiety with a quick little point. Hortensis Nov 2015 #24

Hillary has embraced them? Not nearly as much as Bernie. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #2

Do tell, pnwmom Scootaloo Nov 2015 #5

Wait, I thought he was too far left Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #10

please explain. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #16

Your belief is that Bernie is pushing for more H1B visas? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #26

What the hell are you smoking? hifiguy Nov 2015 #40

By "revealing" I think you meant "depressing". n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author TumbleAndJumble Nov 2015 #4

It is depressing and they stayed so well hidden it took me too long to find them. I am glad they Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #18

now, it's not all seasteading freaks--but the DLC was founded to ensure that the party had a steady MisterP Nov 2015 #6

That story is part of the DLC official and authorized history...you really believe all that? HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #13

That is more deception and it is called "spin" by some and these folks are libertarian liars, none Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #20

I read the OP not as a libertarian takeover, but a tech/big city/urban professional takeover pampango Nov 2015 #7

I agree. "Libertarian" might not be exactly the right word for it. Anti-worker is better. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #27

That's not Libertarian. It is crony capitalism n2doc Nov 2015 #8

You got it. Thanks! n/t djean111 Nov 2015 #9

Perfect. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #11

...! KoKo Nov 2015 #12

Yep. A kinder, gentler & more "progressive" fascism. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #15

That "kindness" will only last until they gain power. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #19

What a crock. Darb Nov 2015 #14

libertarians are only that untill they are out of work, then suddenly they are first in line for Javaman Nov 2015 #17

The Democratic Party has always had many factions, Hortensis Nov 2015 #21

False equivalency and spin. True the Democrataic once had Dixie Crats and Anti-War, pro and anti Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #22

Spin? Yes. Let's CAN that, shall we? It's not correct that Hortensis Nov 2015 #23

So according to you inflitering the Democratic party on liberal social issues and hiding their Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #30

Why did any of us choose to "infiltrate" the Democratic Party? Hortensis Nov 2015 #31

Because you are the same folks pushing "both parties are the same" because you want one party only. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #32

"You"? You are mistaken, Illusion. I am a lifelong Hortensis Nov 2015 #36

I was responding to your comment, "why did any of us choose to inflitrate the . . . . and thought it Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #41

Brawl away, then. I think I sounded like a liberal. Hortensis Nov 2015 #44

It is only my opinion, but you sounded like what a conservative defines as a liberal. I don't know Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #45

Lots of people are abandoning the crazy train that is the republicans right now. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #25

Affordable schools that will have no tax support. How are schools going to be affordable with no Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #33

But they love and worship hifiguy Nov 2015 #38

In a way, this doesn't surprise me. The draw bridge is down & the guards are drunk... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #28

I've been posting about democrats unwittingly espousing WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2015 #29

I agree and the few liberal Democratic still around are going to have to do a lot of shouting and Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #34

Have you read "The Internet Is Not the Answer" by Andrew Keen? FSogol Nov 2015 #39

Awesome, I'll go find it at Unabridged Bookstore in Lakeview, Chicago WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2015 #42

Thanks. You reminded men about an earlier crazy scheme, job sharing, the ninties I think. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #43

This battle has already been joined in $iliValley KamaAina Nov 2015 #35

Repubs who can't abide the jebus-wheezers and xenophobes hifiguy Nov 2015 #37