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Act_of_Reparation

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27. There are more than a few problems with this plan:
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nov 2015

1) The basics: Food, water, and waste disposal. If you're going to secure a piece of land to settle, it has to be able to fulfill the biological needs of those residing upon it. In a place like Syria, this kind of prime real estate will be heavily defended.

2) External security. ISIS is an army and armies have artillery. You can go ahead and hole up in your reservation; nothing is stopping them from dropping mortars on your head except for their limited understanding of trigonometry.

3) Internal security. Let's say you get your land and open your doors to all Syrians seeking safe refuge from the terrors of civil war. Just one question: how do you tell the difference between a refugee and a suicide bomber pretending to be a refugee?

4), 5) & 6): Shelter, electricity, and infrastructure. Unless you're planning on the war being over in a few weeks, you might consider investing in the rudimentary elements of modern civilization. Unless, of course, you think living in tents in the middle of the desert is preferable to asylum in Europe or the United States.

7) Mathematics. If ISIS or any of the other Syrian factions decides they want to do away with your camp, it is unlikely to remain under your control for very long, no matter how much money you dump into defending it. They are mobile, they know the land, and, perhaps most importantly, they outnumber you. By a lot.

8) There's also the ethical concern of occupying land in Syria. Despite the shitstorm brewing there, it remains a sovereign nation with a recognized government. We can't just drop in there and take a slice of Bashar Al-Assad's back yard without stirring a geopolitical hornet's nest.

As shitty as it sounds, I think offering Syrians asylum is the best, safest option.

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K&R jonno99 Nov 2015 #1
ISIL surface to air missiles with kidnapped, downed US soldiers being burned alive on TV? zazen Nov 2015 #2
How many US troops do you think that would take? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #3
True - as soon as there is a ceasefire - all of non ISIS Syria becomes the safe state karynnj Nov 2015 #24
So why do you think these religious fanatics who want their 72 virgins Calista241 Nov 2015 #29
The cease fire is NOT for ISIS or al Nusra or any other organization deemed a terrorist group karynnj Nov 2015 #30
Where? Who will defend it? How? Who will deliver supplies to the refugees? DetlefK Nov 2015 #4
It would be a UN peacekeeping and humanitarian force NightWatcher Nov 2015 #6
That explains nothing. DetlefK Nov 2015 #10
It's made up of members from US, Germany, UK... NightWatcher Nov 2015 #18
BUT WHO WILL BE ON THE GROUND ACTUALLY DOING THINGS? DetlefK Nov 2015 #20
That explains why the agreement in Vienna, that the world leaders approved in Turkey, is important karynnj Nov 2015 #25
Well, problem #1 is there's no food jeff47 Nov 2015 #5
Is this a refugee from war or drought problem? NightWatcher Nov 2015 #13
Drought is one of the causes of the war. jeff47 Nov 2015 #17
The perfect person to organize it pintobean Nov 2015 #7
Um... Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #9
And this has exactly what to do Aerows Nov 2015 #32
Like the Gaza Strip? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #8
Exactly. Iggo Nov 2015 #12
"We"? malaise Nov 2015 #11
We made the mess, we should help clean it up. NightWatcher Nov 2015 #15
I certainly understand your desire to walk away... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #19
Must you consistently insult other posters and think you're being cute about it? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #31
How does one create a "safe zone" in a country MineralMan Nov 2015 #14
Of course I didn't think it through. Just brainstorming NightWatcher Nov 2015 #16
Frankly, it's a problem too large for me to even begin MineralMan Nov 2015 #23
Why won't Assad & Russia create a safe zone in Syria?I don't think Assad wants those 12 million back Sunlei Nov 2015 #21
Pretty sure thats what Jeb! wants to do. bunnies Nov 2015 #22
Not with Assad and Isis there. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #26
There are more than a few problems with this plan: Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #27
I'm thinking Josh Marshall has it about right. It's time to support Assad. randome Nov 2015 #28
Good question. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #33
1. Can't promise safety Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #34
It's not thousands, it's millions. Glassunion Nov 2015 #35
There are camps in adjacent countries, where a 'safe zone' is a realistic concept muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #36
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