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randome

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28. I'm thinking Josh Marshall has it about right. It's time to support Assad.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-to-do-about-isis

I don't know what the precise best policies here are. But I do have a clear idea of several of the building blocks. The first recalls something I said a few weeks ago, which is that it is folly to be actively engaged against both sides in a civil war, which is effectively what we are now doing. Such a policy may have a cynical logic when you have two hostile entities which you want to see wear each other down and pulverize each other - much as we did during the Iran-Iraq War in 1980s. That is not the current situation. The Assad regime, while bloody, does not in any way pose an immediate threat to the United States.

We need to redefine our Syria policy around the goal of the physical elimination of ISIS as a territorial entity and the physical destruction of its top leaders. If that means accepting the continuance of Assad family rule in at least rump Syria than we need to accept that - even though he's backed by regional adversaries Russia and Iran. Again, how serious are we about eliminating ISIS? I'd say not very serious if we're still hung up on Assad.

It's a bitter pill to swallow but...
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K&R jonno99 Nov 2015 #1
ISIL surface to air missiles with kidnapped, downed US soldiers being burned alive on TV? zazen Nov 2015 #2
How many US troops do you think that would take? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #3
True - as soon as there is a ceasefire - all of non ISIS Syria becomes the safe state karynnj Nov 2015 #24
So why do you think these religious fanatics who want their 72 virgins Calista241 Nov 2015 #29
The cease fire is NOT for ISIS or al Nusra or any other organization deemed a terrorist group karynnj Nov 2015 #30
Where? Who will defend it? How? Who will deliver supplies to the refugees? DetlefK Nov 2015 #4
It would be a UN peacekeeping and humanitarian force NightWatcher Nov 2015 #6
That explains nothing. DetlefK Nov 2015 #10
It's made up of members from US, Germany, UK... NightWatcher Nov 2015 #18
BUT WHO WILL BE ON THE GROUND ACTUALLY DOING THINGS? DetlefK Nov 2015 #20
That explains why the agreement in Vienna, that the world leaders approved in Turkey, is important karynnj Nov 2015 #25
Well, problem #1 is there's no food jeff47 Nov 2015 #5
Is this a refugee from war or drought problem? NightWatcher Nov 2015 #13
Drought is one of the causes of the war. jeff47 Nov 2015 #17
The perfect person to organize it pintobean Nov 2015 #7
Um... Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #9
And this has exactly what to do Aerows Nov 2015 #32
Like the Gaza Strip? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #8
Exactly. Iggo Nov 2015 #12
"We"? malaise Nov 2015 #11
We made the mess, we should help clean it up. NightWatcher Nov 2015 #15
I certainly understand your desire to walk away... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #19
Must you consistently insult other posters and think you're being cute about it? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #31
How does one create a "safe zone" in a country MineralMan Nov 2015 #14
Of course I didn't think it through. Just brainstorming NightWatcher Nov 2015 #16
Frankly, it's a problem too large for me to even begin MineralMan Nov 2015 #23
Why won't Assad & Russia create a safe zone in Syria?I don't think Assad wants those 12 million back Sunlei Nov 2015 #21
Pretty sure thats what Jeb! wants to do. bunnies Nov 2015 #22
Not with Assad and Isis there. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #26
There are more than a few problems with this plan: Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #27
I'm thinking Josh Marshall has it about right. It's time to support Assad. randome Nov 2015 #28
Good question. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #33
1. Can't promise safety Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #34
It's not thousands, it's millions. Glassunion Nov 2015 #35
There are camps in adjacent countries, where a 'safe zone' is a realistic concept muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #36
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