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Chitown Kev

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Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:37 PM Nov 2015

A quick thought on the why of safe(r) spaces [View all]

Interestingly, while Charles Blow's column in the New York Times today directly addressed the necessity for "safe spaces" for minority students, it was Katherine Stewart's column titled "Ted Cruz and the Anti-Gay Pastor" that really caught my eye this morning on why some are insistent on the need for "safe spaces."


EARLIER this month, in Des Moines, the prominent home-schooling advocate and pastor Kevin Swanson again called for the punishment of homosexuality by death. To be clear, he added that the time for eliminating America’s gay population was “not yet” at hand. We must wait for the nation to embrace the one true religion, he suggested, and gay people must be allowed to repent and convert.


Think about this for a minute.

The genocide of LGBTs is still an issue being discussed in the public square.

A social policy of the 1950's called "Operation Wetback" is now an issue in the public square.

And there remains far too many Americans that want to DO these things as a social policy.

FTR, I don't quite believe in the notion of a "safe space"...quite possibly BECAUSE I am a gay man; I do believe that safer spaces are needed, though, and that those boundaries need to be respected.

But as a black LGBT person, I understand the need for "safe spaces" all too well...

More to come...
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I just read somewhere that if you have a place only for you, safe, that you are being mean randys1 Nov 2015 #1
What's wrong with making every place a safe place for people? shraby Nov 2015 #2
Well, how DO you make every place a "safe space"? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #3
Education is the name of the game. Enlightened people do shraby Nov 2015 #4
Enlightened people think of, say, and do pretty unenlightend things, as well. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #5
Explain "scientific racism" Thought that went out with shraby Nov 2015 #6
I'll give you a Wikipedia page Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #7
Scientific racism shraby Nov 2015 #8
And it sells... Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #9
It sells to the lowest common denominator. Thinking people know shraby Nov 2015 #10
The LCD = an awful lot of folks...millions...people who vote Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #11
There will never be a safe place. Like I said, education is the shraby Nov 2015 #12
Education....sooooo.... Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #14
I hear what you are saying about needing a safe place. I do jwirr Nov 2015 #29
But you are better able the confidence to be able to handle those situations Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #33
Okay I had thought about the black colleges and it makes jwirr Nov 2015 #39
Wow - that link is a required reading list for white supremacists. jwirr Nov 2015 #28
You're welcome! Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #31
No, we don't need safe spaces. Kentonio Nov 2015 #13
Not necessarily...after all, the oldest African American religious denomination began, to extent Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #15
It's the last line of your post that worries me. Kentonio Nov 2015 #18
We're getting somewhere Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #19
Yeah, as I think more about it.. Kentonio Nov 2015 #21
I went to an black college in the South for a time Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #23
Good example using the family. Interracial marriage also jwirr Nov 2015 #32
Remember, I'm black AND LGBT and a religious agnostic so... Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #16
You can't enforce acceptance without being totalitarian ram2008 Nov 2015 #25
Thing is Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #26
But again, what designates something as a safe space? ram2008 Nov 2015 #27
But people do have a need (and maybe a right) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #30
Again colleges are literally the safest spaces there are ram2008 Nov 2015 #34
Jesuit schools rock Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #35
Woohoo Jesuits! I guess it boils down to what I believe the duty of preserving safety entails ram2008 Nov 2015 #36
If you go to a Jesuit school Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #37
Most College Students are already safe, that's the reality ram2008 Nov 2015 #17
I disagree with you Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #20
What can an institution do to change this? ram2008 Nov 2015 #22
Well, yes... Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #24
"unwanted sexual contact?" gollygee Nov 2015 #38
Because the two are not the same ram2008 Nov 2015 #40
Rape is not always done under threat of violence gollygee Nov 2015 #41
That part is correct ram2008 Nov 2015 #43
But the link uses the specific and appropriate Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #42
The methodology of that survey is a bit flawed to begin with ram2008 Nov 2015 #44
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