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politicman

(710 posts)
29. You are trying to give a lesson in Islam to a Muslim?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

1) Yes the Mosques in France for instance are appointed by which country pays for the mosque. But that sentence there just illustrates the point I was making that there is no central authority, basically whoever builds the mosque can appoint their own Imam to that mosque. Heck I could build my own mosque and appoint myself Imam and then go ahead and convince whoever attends my mosque of what ever interpretation I want to.
But even if one accepts your argument it doesn't make any difference, because radicalisation doesn't happen in the mosques which are surveilled around the clock, radicalisation happens in private homes and on the net. And the people who are making this radicalisation happen are not the Imams in the mosque who again are watched 24/7 by authorities, it is done by self styled Imams who convince impressionable people behind closed doors to believe in a distorted interpretation of the religion.


2) It is you that is wrong. For over 1400 years not a single word has been changed in the Koran. Even during the crusades when they tried to wipe out Islam, they were not able to succeed. Why?
Because the Koran doesn't just live on paper, every word is learnt by heart by too many adherents of Islam that even if you destroyed every Koran book or changed every Koran book in the world, the fact that the adherents of Islam can recite it word from word from memory protects it from ever being changed.
That's not to say that there won't be some obscure sect within Islam somewhere that has changed words in the Koran for their own benefit, but they will always just remain some obscure sects.
Case in point, there is a small sect within Islam that is called Alawite which is what my mum is (my dad being a Sunni), this sect goes so far as to sometimes change the Koran to fit their own beliefs which violate the fundamental tenets of Islam, but even through hundreds of years this sect has remained small and obscure because 95% plus of Muslims will always adhere to the Koran that has survived in tact since the days of Mohammed,

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