re ISIS: Sometimes turning the other cheek is not an option.

[politicman]

33. My response,

1) You do realise that if some ak-47 training goes on in a mosque here or there, it is not a directive from some central authority of all Muslims somewhere in the world for that mosque or all mosques to do such actions.
Saudi Arabia funds and builds some mosques around the world and they can dictate which Imam they put in charge of the mosques they built, but they have no way of knowing what goes on in that mosque on a day to day basis or what is said on a day to day basis between the walls of that mosque. Same with Iran and the mosques they build. Same with the mosques that are funded and built from community donations in any part of the world.
Let me give you an example of what I am talking about:
I used to attend this mosque in my area, and the Imam was a real good person who had some harsh views according to what the religion teaches but always used to denounce terror and extremism.
But he wasn't always present in that mosque at every minute, and so anyone could walk off the street and attend that mosque and start to gain the trust of regular attendees to the point where they believe this person is a pious individual and listen to him and start to be convinced by his interpretations of things. The same way that a principle of a school can't always know what is said or happens in the classrooms by teachers and students alike or even the school yards of that school.
Keep in mind that hundreds of totally different people can attend a mosque at any one time, so if a small group of those people find each other at a mosque and then take their friendship back to their homes and preach their, they can then use the mosque for nefarious deeds that the guardians of the mosque don't know about, but this does not mean these people were radicalised in the mosque, it mean they were radicalised somewhere else and used the mosque as a way to try and blend in with peaceful Muslims as a way to get cover for themselves.
Also, keep in mind that there will always be an exception to the rule like the one you cited, but just like anything in life, an exception to the rule is exactly that, an exception, not the rule.


2) I'll say it again, there are always people spreading claims and rumours and stories and attempting to change things within the Koran and hadiths to either fit the interpretation they want or to damage the religion.
Just look at all the different sects in Islam, the reason there are different sect within the religion is because a group of people wanted to believe a certain way and thus they omitted certain surahs for their own gain or changed certain hadiths for their own gain or even just interpreted things their won way for their own gain.
But these groups are small in comparison to the entire Muslim population that goes by the original words of the Koran which they have never changed for 1400 years.
An example of what I am talking about is my dad was Sunni, my mum is Alawi, her sect have gone and disregarded plenty of hadiths or literally changed plenty of hadiths to suit there agenda of believing that Ali was the true prophet even though the Koran specifically says it was Muhammed, and they have even gone as far as to have their own version of the Koran that suits their belief.
But they are such a tiny tiny percentage of Muslims worldwide, that they are considered an obscure sect of Islam that their version of hadiths and Koran is dismissed whole heartedly by majority of Muslims.


3 All I need to say is this, that killing Adherents to a faith and trying to force them to renounce their faith while destroying their Islamic items is trying to wipe out a faith, its as simple as that.