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In reply to the discussion: re ISIS: Sometimes turning the other cheek is not an option. [View all]Yorktown
(2,884 posts)34. I stand my ground, and provide additional proof
(1) On imams themselves preaching hatred and terrorism
Lots of other google hits, and I voluntarily excluded what Geller and her ilk say.
(2) On the Quran not having been preserved as it itself claims
(3) on the Crusades' objective being to eradicate Islam.
I notice you are slowly backing down. Now the simple killing of adherents of a faith is counted as trying to 'wipe out' the religion. If that is so, then you are by implication saying the Muslim conquests had as an objective to eradicate Christianity, and succeeded far better. Syria, Egypt, the Maghreb were Christian, Iran was Zoroastrian, Afghanistan was Buddhist, Bangladesh was Hindu. Not that I care one way or the other, mind you. I have equal disrespect for Christianity and Islam.
France Deports 40 Imams For 'Preaching Hatred,'
http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-terror-threat-france-deports-40-imams-preaching-hatred-interior-minister-says-1987822
http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-terror-threat-france-deports-40-imams-preaching-hatred-interior-minister-says-1987822
FBI: 10% of U.S. Mosques Preach Jihad
http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/Mosques-preach-jihad/2009/11/10/id/336125/
http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/Mosques-preach-jihad/2009/11/10/id/336125/
Lots of other google hits, and I voluntarily excluded what Geller and her ilk say.
(2) On the Quran not having been preserved as it itself claims
Reported 'Aisha (RA): the verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times was revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) expired and we were occupied by his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper. (Sunan Ibn Majah, Hadith 1944)
(3) on the Crusades' objective being to eradicate Islam.
I notice you are slowly backing down. Now the simple killing of adherents of a faith is counted as trying to 'wipe out' the religion. If that is so, then you are by implication saying the Muslim conquests had as an objective to eradicate Christianity, and succeeded far better. Syria, Egypt, the Maghreb were Christian, Iran was Zoroastrian, Afghanistan was Buddhist, Bangladesh was Hindu. Not that I care one way or the other, mind you. I have equal disrespect for Christianity and Islam.
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aerial bombing just hits fixed assets and brought IS *into* existence, assassination also helps
MisterP
Nov 2015
#28
maybe we should stop backing factions that aim to destroy stable governments?
killbotfactory
Nov 2015
#37