re ISIS: Sometimes turning the other cheek is not an option.

[politicman]

38. Again my response

1) Your very own link that you provided says that these Imams were deported for preaching hatred, not for radicalising people to be terrorists.
There is a difference between Imams preaching hatred and radicalising their followers and inciting them to commit terror acts.
As an example, for all anyone knows these Imams could have given sermons in their mosques denouncing the West's hypocritical policies or they could have given sermons denouncing what they consider to be the West's degrading morals, etc, etc.
It could have been something that sits right on the line of free speech or preaching hatred, but with the current climate of the last 5 years the French could have erred on the side of caution and deported them.
Point being that it was radicalisation creating terrorists, at worst it could be deemed hate speech by your very own article, and the West itself has plenty of institutions (both religious and secular) that engage in hate speech all the time.


2) Religious scholars way more versed in Islam religion and history have poured over every little detail to do with the religion and have reiterated that the Koran as it stands today is the exact same as when it came down to Muhammed. These are not just a handful of scholars, there are thousands upon thousands of scholars throughout the world, from generation to generation that learn every aspect of Islam and the history of Islam and they all come to the same conclusion. There are even scholars from other religions that research the history of Islam to try and discredit it and they even accept the fact that the Koran has not changed at all.
And that is because from the very beginning from when the verses came down to Muhammed, as each verse came down, it was written down as well as memorized and recited by the followers at that time and has been that way ever since.

3) I'm not slowly backing down on anything, you are trying to be selective with wrote I wrote earlier. Not just the simple killing of adherent of a faith, but trying to force those they didn't kill to renounce their religion, as well as destroying any literature or books to do with the religion that they could get there hands on. As I said, during the crusades Muslims had to pray and recite within under their breaths and within their hearts for fear of being discovered and killed, etc.

And yes Muslims themselves had instances in their histories where they wanted to wipe out faiths that they considered insulted god.. Its a fact and I admit it. Most times people converted willingly to Islam (as evidenced by the fact that Islam has been the fastest growing religion for a long time) but there were times when some Muslims after the prophets time tried to wipe out faiths in land that they had conquered.
But that's beside the point because I brought up the crusades simply to prove that they tried to and couldn't wipe out Islam and no one will ever be able to.