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MosheFeingold

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73. I find it interesting that it is OK to blame a white for the actions of other whites.

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:38 PM

Nov 2015

I personally think people are responsible for their own actions, and not of others.

Group punishment is nonsense. I don't hate present-day Germans because various day Germans gassed most of my family (including my elder brother and sister) and then threw them in ovens.

I don't hate Muslim Arabs as a group because various individual Muslim Arabs go around stabbing random Jewish people.

Similarly, it is nonsense to corner and verbally abuse random Asian and White people in a library for the acts of other white (or Asian) people.

People are individuals, and to treat individual whites (or Asians) wrongly because other members who may share similar pigmentation are asshats is stupid and non-productive. That's like something a stupid redneck racist would do to black people.

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The Dartmouth protests. Coverage from The Dartmouth. [View all] Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 OP

Thanks for posting a much more balanced piece cali Nov 2015 #1

The excerpts I posted were addressing the allegations in the now hidden post. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #2

Somebody needs to tell these spoiled individuals to get back to class snooper2 Nov 2015 #3

This protest was a great idea! hughee99 Nov 2015 #8

You said it perfectly. Tipperary Nov 2015 #174

I'm practically a convert after reading the OP! NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #245

Most of the Ivies offer much better aid packages than other expensive colleges KamaAina Nov 2015 #228

Hmmm... I will take even odds this gets alerted on GummyBearz Nov 2015 #4

Crossing university libraries off the safe space list. B2G Nov 2015 #5

Rise up my friends. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #6

Right on! We love the sight of white girl tears. It was a glorious victory... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #9

POC are not safe in school environments because of the color of their skin. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #10

Yeah, Dartmouth is a cesspool of racist violence. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #19

Your complete LACK of concern for white anyone is also noted whathehell Nov 2015 #40

Who, oh who will stand for the whites?! Codeine Nov 2015 #160

so two wrongs make it right Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #165

Right!..Bring on the abuse, 'cause, um, uh "white privilege" whathehell Nov 2015 #191

"What a assunine response" Codeine Nov 2015 #198

No, if a typo is your best 'joke' whathehell Nov 2015 #226

A woman on the comment thread made a great point about white tears and white privilege adigal Nov 2015 #238

This 'white 'girl' isn't fragile...I.don't cry. whathehell Nov 2015 #244

I'm guessing my daughter would laugh and give them the finger. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #247

Yeah, that's about right. whathehell Nov 2015 #250

I raised my daughter to have compassion for people who have suffered. nt adigal Nov 2015 #252

So did I, but I didn't raise her to suffer fools. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #253

She should, but that doesn'require offering oneself up as a scapegoat. n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #268

uhhhhh . . . yeah. Rise up. At the library. At Dartmouth Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #29

I am perfectly fine with your thoughts about me. I am not concerned about them. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #36

thoughts don't have feelings snooper2 Nov 2015 #231

It is working Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #38

It's Working? RobinA Nov 2015 #144

If by "working," you mean alienating potential allies... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #200

These "protesters" come off like a bunch of assholes just looking for attention. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #7

A bunch of patriots looking to not be discriminated against, beaten, shot, or unjustly targeted. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #11

Yes that happens a lot in Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #15

They are not safe from racists in any environment. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #18

That's not a library Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #27

I really don't care if I get hidden at this point. This is just fucking sick. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #34

And if you would please put your Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #66

So you're okay with what happened to that just orphaned teen girl . . . brush Nov 2015 #53

No, I am not OK whith what happened to her Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #77

Don't fall for the bait... Rex Nov 2015 #82

I find it interesting that it is OK to blame a white for the actions of other whites. MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #73

This is a good post. polly7 Nov 2015 #192

I daresay that a library at an Ivy League college hifiguy Nov 2015 #204

I think the previous posters comment fits much better than yours. Waldorf Nov 2015 #50

Where do you get this stuff? NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #249

You conflate 'infer' and 'imply'. Though I realize convenience it affords one's bias. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #39

Aren't protests usually outdoors, to be visible, seen and heard? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #12

Here is why I disagree with you. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #16

How is the classroom not safe for POC? Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #17

Is this specific enough for you? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #20

And if she put her phone away when asked Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #22

"And if she put her phone away when asked" NCTraveler Nov 2015 #26

And Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #31

"So you are saying it is fine for a person to disrupt all of the other students learning" NCTraveler Nov 2015 #37

Nothing racist about her disruption Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #42

Come on, we argued this out when the incident happened brush Nov 2015 #61

I hope you just did not call me a racist Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #44

So since you have nothing else, you call him a racist. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #254

And that cop should be charged. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #24

Yep and he was fired Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #32

Agreed. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #35

Um, that didn't happen st Dartmouth.. whathehell Nov 2015 #81

You're arguing with a tree. hifiguy Nov 2015 #215

True, that. n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #220

STOP IT! romanic Nov 2015 #41

Yes Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #45

Thank you. n,/t whathehell Nov 2015 #54

"But you saying "POC aren't safe anywhere" is straight up manipulative propaganda." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #62

No not really Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #71

It is a fact. romanic Nov 2015 #75

It's overstated...Apparently, they were quite safe at Dartmouth. whathehell Nov 2015 #248

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #48

Jury results TacoD Nov 2015 #56

To bad calling a person a racist Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #72

Do you have any evidence that classes at Dartmouth aren't safe for students of color? cali Nov 2015 #49

It's a eutopia of equality. I would laugh if I didn't think you were serious. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64

Ok, so you don't have any evidence. And I think you meant utopia cali Nov 2015 #87

Evidence? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #92

Evidence that classes at Dartmouth aren't safe for students of color there. Yeah, that waould cali Nov 2015 #102

and I would think Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #110

Love this post and your last one to me. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #115

Yes I agree, your posts are very eye opening Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #118

I fully understand you see it as sad. Something I have made very clear I am comfortable with. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #125

Right back at you, my dear friend cali Nov 2015 #124

Thanks cali. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #127

I have to agree with this...I don't think there are very many places safe for POC in this country adigal Nov 2015 #239

I am speaking only of Dartmouth classrooms. cali Nov 2015 #246

Lets see some of that evidence Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #106

The universe will reach heat death hifiguy Nov 2015 #216

I know Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #230

Yep hifiguy Nov 2015 #233

I can see why most of my AfAm friends from the AfAm forum wont post in this thread, they randys1 Nov 2015 #255

Just in case we haven't heard enough whitesplaining this morning. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13

"Whitesplaining" Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #21

Perfectly comfortable with my term there. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #23

I am sure you are Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #33

Is racist verbal abuse by black students "blacksplaining"? whathehell Nov 2015 #63

it's bullying Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #69

That until Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #74

Pre-fucking-cisely. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #203

Cowards don't have the intestinal fortitude Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #206

Cowards have a tendency to pick easy targets cprise Nov 2015 #212

Students who attend Dartmouth calling others "privileged." Tipperary Nov 2015 #14

Teh disconnect! it hurts Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #25

LOL! whathehell Nov 2015 #55

Interesting how does that work. Historic NY Nov 2015 #205

Ivy League schools mostly have endowments in billions and give out tons of financial aid adigal Nov 2015 #240

No SHIT. hifiguy Nov 2015 #217

Isn't the BLM movement about police brutality? B2G Nov 2015 #28

Yes, it started that way, but judging by this incident and others, whathehell Nov 2015 #264

Video for those interested philosslayer Nov 2015 #30

Ridiculous. Tipperary Nov 2015 #47

Yes, slaughtering people for the color of their skin sure is, I am so proud of the AfAm community randys1 Nov 2015 #256

A few people who can't control their anger using the protest to be mean to fellow humans BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #43

They all need to be expelled. romanic Nov 2015 #46

Yes, and you're right...They're just bullies using blm whathehell Nov 2015 #88

I figured this is where the "white privilege" meme was going. whathehell Nov 2015 #51

This depresses me to think that the Democratic Party is filled with so many people who still randys1 Nov 2015 #257

It depresses me to think the Democratic Party is filled with so many people whathehell Nov 2015 #260

Explained? Jesus, I cant , I dont, I just, never mind randys1 Nov 2015 #263

The lack of logic in the concept of fair treatment whathehell Nov 2015 #266

Did you ever stop and think that jack_krass Nov 2015 #269

Oh I do, you see I am white and I am full of privilege and I know it. randys1 Nov 2015 #270

You know what's funny about this? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #52

And the students in that library are all guilty of that history GummyBearz Nov 2015 #57

Not past injustices at all Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #70

So students should be happy that some assholes disrupt their studying? NobodyHere Nov 2015 #60

What? Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #65

And you are a part of the very real modern problem TM99 Nov 2015 #134

THANK you!! B2G Nov 2015 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #142

^^^this Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #143

Well said Crabby Appleton Nov 2015 #189

+1000. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #193

Absolutely! romanic Nov 2015 #194

Oh noes!! Rich white kids made to feel uncomfortable Codeine Nov 2015 #58

How do you know they are rich? Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #59

She doesn't. whathehell Nov 2015 #67

Being rich doesn't negate white privilege. msrizzo Nov 2015 #80

No, and being black doesn't negate being a racist bigot. whathehell Nov 2015 #229

This. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #79

Really? Disappointing. I usually agree with your posts. Throd Nov 2015 #83

YEP. Rex Nov 2015 #85

Funny. You're doing the same thing right-wingers do when they talk about college kids ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #135

And you're doing the same thing right wingers do Codeine Nov 2015 #150

No actually I'm not ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #179

I like that term, "hyper-delicate" SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #214

Look at this thread. Look at the URL where these comments are being made randys1 Nov 2015 #258

You dont think the black kids are on the way to 1% Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #261

Black 1% =/= White 1% nt Codeine Nov 2015 #262

Good for the students protesting. Rex Nov 2015 #68

No, some can't stand hostile racial bigotry. Period. whathehell Nov 2015 #76

I was talking about the upset kiddies in the article. Rex Nov 2015 #78

What "kiddies" are you referring to? whathehell Nov 2015 #96

The students that were upset by the protests. Rex Nov 2015 #98

The students had a right to be upset -- The "protesters' whathehell Nov 2015 #105

Wrong. Rex Nov 2015 #120

Yes, you are. whathehell Nov 2015 #196

what racists are here on DU? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #116

Oh how cute. Rex Nov 2015 #121

You think DU is full of racists? That says more about you than DU. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #156

Full? Again, kewl story bro. Rex Nov 2015 #157

Too bad, he or she is afraid to actually Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #162

LOL! Yes I saw you begging another poster to call you a racist upthread. Rex Nov 2015 #166

That poster all but did call me a racist Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #175

Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots, tens of millions, actually, of racists in America randys1 Nov 2015 #265

I wish I could not care what "some" think on DU, I cant get it out of my head that you randys1 Nov 2015 #259

Amen. romanic Nov 2015 #84

Why did you put "oppression" in quotes? Do you think it wasn't a real thing? adigal Nov 2015 #241

I have respect and admiration for BLM. cali Nov 2015 #90

Well maybe it will make the students that are upset use their critical thinking skills. Rex Nov 2015 #93

Verbal abuse is violence BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #103

Wrong. Rex Nov 2015 #109

How is a protest in a library going to further their cause? Tipperary Nov 2015 #129

Racism and bigotry is violence. AngryAmish Nov 2015 #235

Maybe they are already sympathetic to BLM but don't like being screamed at. Throd Nov 2015 #108

I love all the whitesplaining in this thread. Rex Nov 2015 #114

good comeback Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #123

LOL! Like you care. Rex Nov 2015 #131

Acually I do Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #133

LOL! Rex Nov 2015 #137

well the truth Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #141

It obviously bothers you a great deal. Rex Nov 2015 #153

Yes indeed racism does bother me Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #210

Nice dumbsplaining. Throd Nov 2015 #136

Gosh, thanks for mansplaining this to me! Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #208

And the black and white students chanting in the library who are also Dartmouth students Tipperary Nov 2015 #209

Black Person Makes White Girl Cry; a Nation Mourns. Codeine Nov 2015 #211

Did you know that the first draft of MLK' TM99 Nov 2015 #218

Intimidation and mockery do not aid in getting people to use their critical thinking skills. cali Nov 2015 #113

Oh I doubt the protesting will make any of the scared students think critically. Rex Nov 2015 #119

Could you imagine the outrage NobodyHere Nov 2015 #86

Absolutely. whathehell Nov 2015 #94

Yep, truly sad Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #126

This "protest" can only happen within the bubble of a safe campus. Throd Nov 2015 #89

To the usual suspects defending this romanic Nov 2015 #91

Nice fiction there, but that didn't happen now did it? Rex Nov 2015 #95

So evidently supporting BLS means B2G Nov 2015 #99

What is BLS? Rex Nov 2015 #101

What do you think it means? nt B2G Nov 2015 #104

BLS? No idea, I know BLM means Black Lives Matter. Rex Nov 2015 #107

In case you hadn't noticed, B2G Nov 2015 #112

Seems some only care about white skin...but that is not directed at you. Rex Nov 2015 #117

Stormfront. Lol. B2G Nov 2015 #122

why do you not point them out then, scared? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #130

I don't have to they are obvious. Rex Nov 2015 #132

so are you calling me a racist? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #140

I don't have to call you anything, you project everything you are for the world to see. Rex Nov 2015 #154

not paranoia Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #159

Kewl story. Rex Nov 2015 #161

yes it is "cool" Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #169

" I guess right-wingers aren't the only ones who want a race war" sufrommich Nov 2015 #97

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #100

lol romanic Nov 2015 #151

LOL! Rex Nov 2015 #152

Come back with some better material. romanic Nov 2015 #197

I know Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #207

We've been in the midst of a low-intensity Codeine Nov 2015 #111

No they won't! They will now need expensive therapy! Rex Nov 2015 #128

Protesters hate it when other students exert their privilege to go to class, study, etc. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #139

Good for protesting students Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #145

What threats? B2G Nov 2015 #146

like this Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #147

Are you serious? B2G Nov 2015 #148

What slurs ? Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #167

Goodluck. Rex Nov 2015 #168

I have yet to see you post a threat B2G Nov 2015 #170

The students said they filed reports with the school and nothing has ever been done Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #176

If they were truly threatened, B2G Nov 2015 #180

really Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #183

Yes, that's a perfect comparison. B2G Nov 2015 #187

Well I am sure they have the paperwork Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #184

It seems they have not Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #177

Just curious, what happens if one of the white students expresses concerns hughee99 Nov 2015 #149

Well Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #155

So if someone complains about this, you'd be okay with Dartmouth hughee99 Nov 2015 #158

Protesting has consequences and I'm sure they know that ! Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #163

Fair enough. n/t hughee99 Nov 2015 #164

Should black students feel safe on campus ? Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #171

Absolutely! I'm just not sure that this protest will further that goal. n/t hughee99 Nov 2015 #172

Protest is to bring awareness Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #182

I thought protest was to bring about change. romanic Nov 2015 #202

Ok ms/mr bubble Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #213

of course Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #178

Apparently rich white kids need a safe space nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #173

every student does Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #181

What about the first amendment? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #186

It sounds like there were threats Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #188

There are rumors from college Republicans to that effect. Not credible nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #190

Dartmouth is a private college. hifiguy Nov 2015 #219

Not disagreeing but I doubt very much the protestors geek tragedy Nov 2015 #222

True. hifiguy Nov 2015 #223

Sure, but provocation is a tactic nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #224

We call that space "America". nt Codeine Nov 2015 #185

No, I think rich white kids should be beat up for their ,"privilege " whathehell Nov 2015 #195

There are no credible reports of physical threats nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #199

You mean none that you will accept TM99 Nov 2015 #201

Verbal abuse is bad enough. whathehell Nov 2015 #221

What counts as verbal abuse? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #225

What was reported in the OP.. whathehell Nov 2015 #227

Have any complaints been filed or are we still at the rumor stage? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #232

The protesters admitted this. B2G Nov 2015 #234

How woudnt it be racist,? MichMan Nov 2015 #236

You'll get no argument from me on that. nt B2G Nov 2015 #237

You're right. It is racism. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #251

Nope. Only whites can be racist jack_krass Nov 2015 #271

I'd say "Fuck your white asses" is quite personal. You can imagine the outrage were it in reverse. whathehell Nov 2015 #242

Wait a minute... NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #243

With all said and done. romanic Nov 2015 #267

Somewhere, the Koch brothers are laughing their asses off. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #272