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agnostic102

(198 posts)
54. yes!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

a Cult is a great word. They take teachings of islam and basically make up there own crap almost a new religion. a cult is a great word for isis.

Where would you put the atheist that shot :Deah Barakat, Yusor Abu-Salha, Razan Abu-Salha in NC Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #1
Atheism isn't a belief system... MellowDem Nov 2015 #2
terrorist can be have religious person or have no belief system Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #3
What are you talking about? Your posts read as incoherent nonsense. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #6
Thanks. They are from my area and did quite a bit for humanity in their short time. mmonk Nov 2015 #14
Bravo! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #4
Many of the same people who swarm attack posters hifiguy Nov 2015 #21
Proof that Bill Maher was leftynyc Nov 2015 #58
Who said religion had nothing to do with the Paris attacks? Iggo Nov 2015 #5
It's been said and, more frequently, implied, hifiguy Nov 2015 #22
The core problem with this analysis is that assumes that people el_bryanto Nov 2015 #7
I'm not seeing your argument tkmorris Nov 2015 #8
Well it's a longer discussion el_bryanto Nov 2015 #12
I think that makes sense... MellowDem Nov 2015 #15
Christianity, the Jewish and Islam are religions that have jwirr Nov 2015 #26
Read the rules... MellowDem Nov 2015 #9
But they do believe in other parts of it - right? el_bryanto Nov 2015 #10
They are identifying with it... MellowDem Nov 2015 #13
Yep - "Religious Privilege" is a lot like freedom of conscience. nt el_bryanto Nov 2015 #16
More like "freedom from criticism" MellowDem Nov 2015 #17
How are they free from criticism? el_bryanto Nov 2015 #18
As in by wider society.... MellowDem Nov 2015 #19
So Christians and Muslims should be treated as fascists and members of the KKK in your opinion? nt el_bryanto Nov 2015 #20
No, Christianity and Islam... MellowDem Nov 2015 #31
OK - but people who want to fit into normal society el_bryanto Nov 2015 #38
Thats the issue... MellowDem Nov 2015 #62
Thank - well stated. That makes it very clear. el_bryanto Nov 2015 #69
The reason religions face a lot of criticism is because they great everyone else as second class Lordquinton Nov 2015 #70
It's Mormon Church by the way. el_bryanto Nov 2015 #71
So you're fine with Religions treating others as second class Lordquinton Nov 2015 #72
I'm not fine with Religions's treating others as second class citizens el_bryanto Nov 2015 #73
Then adherence to a bigoted doctrine is an act that should be judged Lordquinton Nov 2015 #75
You don't really know me. el_bryanto Nov 2015 #76
How do you justify that with your church's doctrine? Lordquinton Nov 2015 #78
Well a few points el_bryanto Nov 2015 #79
Your church counts you as supporting it's hate agenda Lordquinton Nov 2015 #80
I reject that definition of religious privilege as it clearly encroaches on the right of people el_bryanto Nov 2015 #81
So you claim that the hate and bigotry is what defines religion? Lordquinton Nov 2015 #84
You really aren't making any sense here el_bryanto Nov 2015 #85
You are doing a lot of twisting Lordquinton Nov 2015 #86
I'm glad you don't want to turn that into persecution el_bryanto Nov 2015 #89
So you don't deny your privilege? Lordquinton Nov 2015 #90
Excommunication is more of a discussion for the Religion Room el_bryanto Nov 2015 #91
The point is that believers can shrug off responsilbity for the horrible snagglepuss Nov 2015 #43
I suppose they might also point out that they don't advocate those horrible parts el_bryanto Nov 2015 #55
How about their evidence-free beliefs be treated the same as any other? whatthehey Nov 2015 #24
So in a just society Religious believers would be ineligible to hold public office el_bryanto Nov 2015 #40
Are believers in Santa ineligible? whatthehey Nov 2015 #49
Thank you for clarifying. el_bryanto Nov 2015 #53
They are identifying with an idea that goes back to the 9th jwirr Nov 2015 #27
The "modern version"... MellowDem Nov 2015 #29
I was objecting to the broad brush used in the OP. There are jwirr Nov 2015 #30
These are present day problems... MellowDem Nov 2015 #33
You've lost me.Are you saying people are choosing their religion deliberately snagglepuss Nov 2015 #41
Excellent post. I have zero respect for Abraham's cruel, capricious, misogynist god Dems to Win Nov 2015 #11
To be a Liberal/Progressive minded person is to critique ALL ideologies Yavin4 Nov 2015 #23
Extremist fundamentalists pick and choose small bad bits ignoring the context uppityperson Nov 2015 #25
True, but the Moderates and Liberals do the same with the good bits. Its the same selective... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #28
I've no problem with people treating each other and the world with kindness uppityperson Nov 2015 #37
No but when each side is equally convinced that THEY are following the "true" word of god... trotsky Nov 2015 #47
ISIS is Mulsim and the KKK are Christian. What difference does that make. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #32
You didn't read the OP... MellowDem Nov 2015 #34
Religion is whatever people say it is. DirkGently Nov 2015 #35
Criticism of religion is silenced... MellowDem Nov 2015 #36
We're criticizing religion right now. DirkGently Nov 2015 #42
Not in broader society... MellowDem Nov 2015 #64
There's this absurd idea that it's only "real" religion when it's nice. n/t Old Union Guy Nov 2015 #39
How about the only "acceptable" religion? DirkGently Nov 2015 #44
"when things get harsh or ugly, the bad ideas are still there" trotsky Nov 2015 #48
As someone agnostic102 Nov 2015 #45
Thank you for your perspective. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #60
The importance of religion to terrorism is an important factor... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #46
I think what we do about it... MellowDem Nov 2015 #65
Is like saying that patriotism had nothing to do with blowing up the Murrow Federal Building. pampango Nov 2015 #50
I would say that ISIL, Daesh, is a cult not a group of Muslims. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #51
yes! agnostic102 Nov 2015 #54
Isis is to Islam as the Branch Davidians were to Christianity. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #57
A lot of Muslims would disagree with you... MellowDem Nov 2015 #66
#NotAllMen... nt Romulox Nov 2015 #52
"ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents." - Barack Obama mwrguy Nov 2015 #56
Mohammed was a warrior who slew innocent people in his snagglepuss Nov 2015 #63
Mohamed lived in the 7th century treestar Nov 2015 #88
Jesus not his apostles didn't engage in war. snagglepuss Nov 2015 #92
That is exactly what I'm talking about... MellowDem Nov 2015 #67
I certainly didn't define religion that way. BootinUp Nov 2015 #68
Were the Crusades Christian? Was the Inquisition Catholic? Marr Nov 2015 #83
Many progressives have a strange relationship with Islam Matrosov Nov 2015 #59
*This* smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #61
What you describe is rampant on DU Democat Nov 2015 #74
...is like saying Christianity has nothing to do with the acts by the KKK. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #77
Many American liberals are thrown into a rhetorical tailspin by Islam. Marr Nov 2015 #82
Islam has a lot less separation of religion and state treestar Nov 2015 #87
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