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53. Also, it's possible that if he is regularly effed up, he really doesn't know exactly what he (or

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:54 PM

Nov 2015

his partners) are doing. People do stupid things under the influence, so it's possible that some not very wise decisions were made when he and his partners were out of their minds. You never really know. Heavy drug/alcohol use and promiscuous sex is just not a good combination.

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I find the blaming of porn stars for Sheen's HIV status to be misogynistic and moralistic [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 OP

If people must blame somebody, then blame the victim Warpy Nov 2015 #1

it seems that he wore condoms, just not the right ones. lamb skin condoms prevent La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #3

Absolutely, it's not a judgment from sky god for an immoral lifestyle, it's a virus. Warpy Nov 2015 #7

agreed. your last sentence is on point. we want to believe this world is fair La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #9

Also, he's rich, and if civilly he can be found blameworthy, closeupready Nov 2015 #26

i just think blame is a stupid game to play. it stigmatized HIV further La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #28

Agree completely. closeupready Nov 2015 #34

Your reasoning is very sound and sensible. hifiguy Nov 2015 #2

thanks. HIV is something i know a lot about La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #6

Do all porn stars get tested, or just those for certain studios? joeybee12 Nov 2015 #4

All in "commercial" porn. jeff47 Nov 2015 #37

There are porn stars... Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #5

Demonization of women is as old as ... ananda Nov 2015 #8

aint that the truth La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #12

I believe he was also having sex with prostitutes. LisaL Nov 2015 #10

why do you blame anyone? unless someone deliberately infects someone else La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #11

Well, we don't know if whoever infected him knew about their HIV status or not. LisaL Nov 2015 #14

and how does we don't know justify blaming people again? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #17

Point fingers at whom? We don't have the name. LisaL Nov 2015 #20

the urge to blame sex workers seems to be rooted in misogyny La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #21

And somebody obviously infected them. Where does the blame stop? smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #49

The males or the females? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #39

That's why prostitution should be legal and regulated with mandatory health checks (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #81

i am already sick of his "poor me" routine restorefreedom Nov 2015 #13

He was sleeping around with various persons who had multiple sex partners themselves. LisaL Nov 2015 #16

yup. its basic risk assessment. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #22

he was on one show talking about his shakedown. not sure how much sympathy you had La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #30

i did not start with a lot restorefreedom Nov 2015 #58

seems like you have an empathy problem. everyone complains if they are blackmailed. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #59

i have no empathy problem restorefreedom Nov 2015 #60

how do you know he did this? and you clearly do have an empathy problem La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #61

i already said i feel bad he has a potentially lethal virus restorefreedom Nov 2015 #65

Don't we ALL focus on PR concerns to one extent or another? Liberal Veteran Nov 2015 #77

i said i had some restorefreedom Nov 2015 #80

It is also possilble that tranmission was from drug use. sdfernando Nov 2015 #15

He claims he wasn't using IV drugs. LisaL Nov 2015 #18

I didn't see the interview so sorry for the error. sdfernando Nov 2015 #25

I think he's full of shit. hunter Nov 2015 #54

entirely possible. again we don't know, hence blaming random women for it La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #19

Probably correct MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #24

Again, he claims he isn't using IV drugs. LisaL Nov 2015 #41

He "claims" lots of things MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #46

Blaming or attacking anyone for having HIV/AIDS is wrong to start with. JanMichael Nov 2015 #23

yup La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #33

How about we show compassion for everyone with HIV (including Charlie Sheen)? Yavin4 Nov 2015 #27

YES. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #32

I agree with that, but at the same time one has to be realistic. hunter Nov 2015 #63

Does he know who/how/where he was exposed? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #29

no, he doesn't know. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #64

One Porn star said some of her "co-workers" were taking the risk to have his baby snooper2 Nov 2015 #31

I do too--the only person he should be blaming for this is the man in the mirror. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #35

he wasn't really having unprotected sex either. his ex mentioned that he used lambskin condoms La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #40

Well maybe if you're gonna play you should know the risks. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #43

I'd love to hear the pretense from the idiot who pretends absolute knowledge LanternWaste Nov 2015 #45

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Yep. A person can get HIV infection from having unprotected sex with another person. Avalux Nov 2015 #36

Also, it's possible that if he is regularly effed up, he really doesn't know exactly what he (or smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #53

I believe the idiom "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" applies to everyone in this situation Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #38

Porn stars are tested Dorian Gray Nov 2015 #42

why would this make women more afraid and not straight men? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #44

It should make everyone afraid. Dorian Gray Nov 2015 #55

why does anyone need to blame anyone for Charlie Sheen getting HIV? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #47

agreed completely. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #51

Off the subject here, but wtf is a "porn star?" Tipperary Nov 2015 #48

i think for studio produced porn, there may be stars. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #50

Well they are mostly women in that category.. EX500rider Nov 2015 #52

I must live a sheltered life because I have never heard of any of these people. Tipperary Nov 2015 #56

You've never heard of Jenna Jameson? Codeine Nov 2015 #69

Lol, I do remember Ron Jeremy because he was on some reality show and Tipperary Nov 2015 #71

Okay.. Do you know who "Pewdiepie" is? (Not a porn star). I'm guessing you don't. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #90

He does all kinds of drugs. What proof is there that he got it from having sex? appleannie1 Nov 2015 #57

This isn't punishment, this is a disease gwheezie Nov 2015 #62

The only person to blame is Charlie Sheen himself. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #66

there is no one to blame. it's not a punishment for a crime La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #67

Of course Sheen is to blame for his situation. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #88

about as much as people who get the flu are to blame, as they def should have taken the flu shot La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #91

Why do you feel the need to defend Sheen? Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #97

But people could have gotten HIV from HIM even though his levels are "undectable" rocktivity Nov 2015 #68

How do you know that? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #72

He COULD have infected others every time he didn't use a condom rocktivity Nov 2015 #74

Yes, he could have and he made a point of La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #76

Considering his taste for hard drugs, maybe he used heroin, too. A contaminated needle tblue37 Nov 2015 #70

Charlie Sheen is a whipping post for some, they hover around waiting for his every problem Rex Nov 2015 #73

well Mr Sheen brettdale Nov 2015 #75

Why do we look at this illness as being punishment at all? gollygee Nov 2015 #79

this is a great point. i addressed something similar in my other OP La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #82

I think the reason people look at HIV Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #89

so is the cold, so are driving accidents, so is the flu, so are a multitude of other diseases La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #93

I blame Sheen for 1997's film "Money Talks" Orrex Nov 2015 #83

I blame Sheen for misinformation and deception Bad Thoughts Nov 2015 #84

Umm if you read that he says he did tell La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #85

I agree and add DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #86

I think I found exactly where the blame belongs here. CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #87

... La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #92

Charlie likes porn stars and escorts of all genders, from what I've been reading. WinkyDink Nov 2015 #94

He has espoused an extremely risky lifestyle for years & years. He has no one to blame to himself. WillowTree Nov 2015 #95

On the show, Charlie made a of point of bragging that he hasn't missed a medical treatment rocktivity Nov 2015 #98

Porn stars do important and hard work, but some here have attacked them long before this Township75 Nov 2015 #96