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Showing Original Post only (View all)Many Liberals Defend Islam the Way Conservatives Defend Guns [View all]
Here's a great article:
Let me start off by saying, I am in no way anti-Muslim. Im very anti-organized religion all organized religion. Ive written many articles bashing the idiocy and ignorance of conservative Christianity. I also know that there are many peaceful Muslims in the world.
That being said, its undeniable that Islam, more so than any other major religion, is linked to violence, oppression, inequality, instability and anti-women beliefs. Even if you remove the radical extremists such as ISIS or al Qaeda, Muslim nations such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait and Egypt arent exactly beacons for freedom, free expression, equality, womens rights or many other ideas liberals claim to support.
Thats why I wholeheartedly agree with Bill Maher when he says its difficult to call yourself a liberal if you defend the culture of Islam.
As a progressive, Im a staunch defender of womens rights, gay rights, religious freedom and equality. Those are values I dont see reflected in the vast majority of Muslim nations, especially in The Middle East and south Asia. Right now in Saudi Arabia there are people in prison for preaching equality and freedom. In several large Muslim nations, women arent allowed to be out in public unless theyre covered. In at least a few others, homosexuality is still punishable by death.
Im struggling to understand this; can someone explain to me how any of that is liberal or why liberals would defend this religion, while seemingly never having any problems bashing right-wing Christian idiocy?...
If you use facts to show that Islam and Sharia law are linked to a lot of this extremism and oppression, even in the non-terrorist aspects of Islam, liberals will often respond with ridiculous comparisons. Theyll harken back to the Crusades from a 1,000 years ago to try to make a point, or theyll claim any white male who carried out a horrific act of violence over the past several decades is a Christian terrorist. If a Muslim kills 5 people because theyre a lone psychopath, thats not Islamic extremism. If a Muslim kills 5 people in the name of Islam, thats Islamic extremism.
That being said, its undeniable that Islam, more so than any other major religion, is linked to violence, oppression, inequality, instability and anti-women beliefs. Even if you remove the radical extremists such as ISIS or al Qaeda, Muslim nations such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait and Egypt arent exactly beacons for freedom, free expression, equality, womens rights or many other ideas liberals claim to support.
Thats why I wholeheartedly agree with Bill Maher when he says its difficult to call yourself a liberal if you defend the culture of Islam.
As a progressive, Im a staunch defender of womens rights, gay rights, religious freedom and equality. Those are values I dont see reflected in the vast majority of Muslim nations, especially in The Middle East and south Asia. Right now in Saudi Arabia there are people in prison for preaching equality and freedom. In several large Muslim nations, women arent allowed to be out in public unless theyre covered. In at least a few others, homosexuality is still punishable by death.
Im struggling to understand this; can someone explain to me how any of that is liberal or why liberals would defend this religion, while seemingly never having any problems bashing right-wing Christian idiocy?...
If you use facts to show that Islam and Sharia law are linked to a lot of this extremism and oppression, even in the non-terrorist aspects of Islam, liberals will often respond with ridiculous comparisons. Theyll harken back to the Crusades from a 1,000 years ago to try to make a point, or theyll claim any white male who carried out a horrific act of violence over the past several decades is a Christian terrorist. If a Muslim kills 5 people because theyre a lone psychopath, thats not Islamic extremism. If a Muslim kills 5 people in the name of Islam, thats Islamic extremism.
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I know christians who are a hell of a lot more progressive than some of the people on DU.
CBGLuthier
Nov 2015
#4
They were promoting Communism, a secular dogma which happened to be anti-theist
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#153
The discussion centers about Islam?? Xian fundies are regularly pilloried here
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#142
Because every single Muslim is a saud. They all are the same. Yeah, bullshit.
CBGLuthier
Nov 2015
#2
You can't argue with the fact that a LOT of Xtian sects are super misogynistic and repressive.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#134
I suspect part of it is due to innocent people in the US being subjects of hate crimes.
herding cats
Nov 2015
#18
I agree-- we progreessives have become accustomed to defend groups that are discriminated against...
TreasonousBastard
Nov 2015
#32
Congratulations on missing the point. I can see it was a herculean effort on your point.
Scootaloo
Nov 2015
#46
I agree to defend people, Muslim or not, unjustly attacked for whatever reason
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#53
How many examples do you want of this supposedly nonerxistent criticism of non-Xians?
whatthehey
Nov 2015
#120
enough is enough. Your point was made the first time. There is no rule that says someone has to
still_one
Nov 2015
#167
Ten days after bragging about all those "examples" you had and you have NOTHING, LOL?
whathehell
Nov 2015
#172
Did it ever occur to you that's because the religious people doing most of the damage in
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#136
The culture of any conservative strain of religion is incompatible with progressivism.
Arkana
Nov 2015
#91
Nope. But it gets the most attention here because it does the most damage here.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#132