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In reply to the discussion: Should we Stop Discussing whether Islam is Peaceful ? [View all]ericson00
(2,707 posts)15. his party and ideology was not started in order to spread Christianity
and the idea that Nazism pro-religion has been debunked by way to many serious historians time and time again.
Hitler's public relationship to religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.[10] His regime did not publicly advocate for state atheism, but it did seek to reduce the influence of Christianity on society. Hitler himself was reluctant to make public attacks on the Church for political reasons, despite the urgings of Nazis like Bormann. Although he was skeptical of religion,[11][12] he did not present himself to the public as an atheist, and spoke of belief in an "almighty creator".[13][14] In private, he could be ambiguous.[15][16] Evans wrote that Hitler repeatedly stated that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not "co-exist with religion".[17]...In office, the Hitler regime connived at a Kirchenkampf (lit. church struggle). While wary of open conflict with the churches, Hitler generally permitted or encouraged anti-church radicals such as Himmler, Goebbels and Bormann to perpetrate their persecutions of the churches.[26] According to Evans, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, with 3.5% 'Deist' (gottgläubig) and 1.5% atheistmost in these latter categories being "convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid-1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[27] Gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in God"
, had a non-denominational, nazified outlook on divine beliefs, often described as predominantly based on creationist and deistic views.[28] Despite all the promotion for positive Christianity and thegottgläubig movement, the majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or mainline Protestant Christians.[29] Hitler angered the churches by appointing the neo-pagan Alfred Rosenberg as official Nazi ideologist.
even the pictures you show merely depict political opportunism of him being acceptable to things that came before him, before he started oppressing the churches.
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yes,i agree with all religions. we see it on DU also when someone says "he isn't a real christian"
JI7
Nov 2015
#9
Wait a minute. You know a bunch of Muslims who don't live according to the religion's rules,
Marr
Nov 2015
#71
Well that freedom should be for all individuals, not just straight men of the dominate faith group
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#30
Its sad to say that our country has ALMOST always been horrible to refugees or immigrants
Jim Beard
Nov 2015
#69
Drama? Because you don't want anyone to discuss the violent past of your religion?
trotsky
Nov 2015
#36
The reality of the problem is that many religions - not just Islam - have violence in their texts.
trotsky
Nov 2015
#39
If they really believed that strongly they would just go do it. Martyrdom for the cause.
Throd
Nov 2015
#60
Give it up. Your argument is pointless. The past is no longer relevant when discussing
smirkymonkey
Nov 2015
#88
I'm just glad that Christianity doesn't subjugate women and persecute gay people
Android3.14
Nov 2015
#22
I imagine the inherent peace or violence of a thing is predicated on interpretation.
LanternWaste
Nov 2015
#41
Yes, because of course some Muslims are and some are not. But it's better to discuss agendas
Yo_Mama
Nov 2015
#49