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35. They are to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity.

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:36 PM

Nov 2015

We don't call the KKK Radical Christians, nor followers of David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc.

We shouldn't call these terrorist jihadists Radical Islamists.

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I'm with Keith (Ellison, D-MN) ... it's "Daesh", not Islamic State because: "They are neither... [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 OP

Daesh it is. "Evil Bag of Dicks" works too. Throd Nov 2015 #1

DOUCHE is more like it. forest444 Nov 2015 #55

Heh. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #75

First time I've read this. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #2

Not Islamic my ass. Codeine Nov 2015 #3

So am I. And liberals, of all people. Marr Nov 2015 #43

Tell that to Muhammad Ali or Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #54

Does anyone belong who is not Islamic? No. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #61

Screaming leftynyc Nov 2015 #77

look at the video in post 52. treestar Nov 2015 #92

I love Keith but I disagree with half of that. trotsky Nov 2015 #4

They are definitely different enough from Islam that they can be considered to be something else. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #6

According to who? Not Pew polls. Not the Quran. Not the Hadith. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #44

Do you really believe that we can determine the meaning jwirr Nov 2015 #83

I don't understand your question. I was referring to opinion polling that has shown Marr Nov 2015 #87

Different in that they recite the exact same prayers Codeine Nov 2015 #51

And from there just a hop, skip and a jump to assuming refugees are dangerous cuz randys1 Nov 2015 #76

You can't ignore reality because someone else might use it for ill. Marr Nov 2015 #94

Total non-sequitur. nt Codeine Nov 2015 #96

So your unfounded fear of refugees has no negative consequences? randys1 Nov 2015 #97

The fuck? I have zero problems with refugees. Codeine Nov 2015 #99

Dah-ESH, I think. KamaAina Nov 2015 #7

President Obama used it in Turkey brucefan Nov 2015 #18

NOOOOOOO!!!!!! KamaAina Nov 2015 #26

Pronounced Dah-sh (video - includes what it means) spedtr90 Nov 2015 #52

very helpful thanks treestar Nov 2015 #90

Keith is right its Daesh Rotegard Nov 2015 #64

Exactly. treestar Nov 2015 #91

Religion is something that is self-identified. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #72

The point IMO is that they do not have an "Islamic State" treestar Nov 2015 #89

Saying Daesh is Islamic, saying they have a state, saying the Muslims they kill are the apostates... ck4829 Nov 2015 #5

They're Islamic. Extreme radical Islam. I'm tired of this denial shit. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #8

So, you won't call them daesh? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #12

I think too much is made of "oh, they hate Daesh so let's call them that"-- TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #15

But using Islamic paints the refugees in the same light. jwirr Nov 2015 #85

From this point forward i will only refer to them as Daesh philosslayer Nov 2015 #29

I trust you won't be complaining about the Westboro Baptist Church in the future... brooklynite Nov 2015 #100

I just think it's as leftynyc Nov 2015 #78

They care what we call them. So, I will call them what that hate to be called: Daesh. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #79

Because they'll know leftynyc Nov 2015 #80

They are to Islam what the KKK is to Christianity. pnwmom Nov 2015 #35

No, I think the comparison with Westboro to Christians below is pretty apt, actually. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #38

We should. Lordquinton Nov 2015 #60

I agree 100%, it's not radical Presbyterians murdering people. I quess that is Obama's doc03 Nov 2015 #39

There is not a religion on earth that has not been used by jwirr Nov 2015 #84

It is not denying they are Islamic treestar Nov 2015 #88

Yes, they are Islamic! It's ridiculous to keep saying they aren't! TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #9

So, you disagree with Ellison. Got it. I will still call them "Daesh". I don't see why... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #10

Daesh is a perfectly good name to me TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #21

When you start calling the KKK "Radical Christians" pnwmom Nov 2015 #36

I think they're probably mostly Christians TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #40

Explain something to me then Brigadier Pudding Nov 2015 #53

For one thing, Muhammad isn't leading them. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #71

Oh gawd. People are so silly. closeupready Nov 2015 #11

Ellison is silly, or I'm silly for agreeing with him? Or both? nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #14

Both. closeupready Nov 2015 #19

"Daesh" it is! I guess I'm just silly that way... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #20

Yes they are - they do not seem to realize that using the jwirr Nov 2015 #86

How is "Daesh" pronounced?. . . Journeyman Nov 2015 #13

Ellison pronounced it "Day-sh". nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #16

And the Christian geniuses here who know what Islam is and what it isn't, closeupready Nov 2015 #17

No true Scotsman, huh? TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #25

I'm certain they will afford you all the attention your actions indeed warrant LanternWaste Nov 2015 #22

Yea, Ellison is sticking his tongue out at them. Thanks for playing. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #24

Does Keith say the same about KSA? How about Brunei? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #23

What does "Daesh" mean? It's new to me. arcane1 Nov 2015 #27

Perhaps you'll find an answer here: (My apologies, my leisure time on DU has run out for the day)... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #28

they hate the name . . . .that's reason enough for me mishi48.59 Nov 2015 #32

Besides ISIS is the spy agency from Archer geardaddy Nov 2015 #30

WAS the spy agency Liberalagogo Nov 2015 #56

Oops, yeah, I forgot. geardaddy Nov 2015 #58

That reminds me of this unfortunately named product: cpwm17 Nov 2015 #73

I dislike the goddess getting mixed up with it too! treestar Nov 2015 #93

+1 geardaddy Nov 2015 #102

"ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents." - Barack Obama mwrguy Nov 2015 #31

+ 1000 n/t MBS Nov 2015 #42

However, they do condone the killing of Apostates. maxsolomon Nov 2015 #62

The first time I saw that term used Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #33

"You probably will not, as you've already been asked several times and have failed to do so." FSogol Nov 2015 #34

What's in a name? A whole lot these days muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #37

Completely agree, assuming bad faith about the people here in general is crappy. n/t FSogol Nov 2015 #57

I agree, muriel. Silliness. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #70

The extra cool thing about this is that Cong. Ellison is himself Muslim MBS Nov 2015 #41

He's my rep and I'm glad he is. geardaddy Nov 2015 #45

great to get confirmation from an insider! : ) n/t MBS Nov 2015 #50

Technically it's (DFL-MN) geardaddy Nov 2015 #46

Yeah, that'll um... show 'em. Marr Nov 2015 #47

Never let it be said we aren't willing to sacrifice. nt Codeine Nov 2015 #63

ISIS is what it is. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #48

Daesh would be better than ISIS. WDIM Nov 2015 #49

Daesh means Islamic State in Arabic oberliner Nov 2015 #59

Also a pun in Arabic Rotegard Nov 2015 #68

They most certainly are Islamic SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #65

Well, alrighty then! Rep. Ellison and myself are sufficiently, most certainly admonished! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #66

If you choose to feel that I've admonished you SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #69

Satan, The Devil, Lucifer, Old Scratch, Old Nick... moondust Nov 2015 #67

Kick NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #74

and, it's pronpounced "dye-esh"..not DASH SoCalDem Nov 2015 #81

Do you say "Paree" or "Paris"? Codeine Nov 2015 #95

To be fair, the Arabic letters for the Daesh acronym have a letter that has no English equivalent. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #101

Thank you. I have been sending donations to Keith even jwirr Nov 2015 #82

Disagree... brooklynite Nov 2015 #98