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gregcrawford

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76. "...we should act like this is a legitimate thing to be concerned about and then work from there."

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:36 PM

Nov 2015

What a total crock of the proverbial substance, Drum! Even calling their craven political posturings "valid concerns" or "a legitimate thing" affords them a level of credibility they do not deserve. You only make matters worse by cowering in the face of their bullying.

By this absurd reasoning, every political cartoonist in the country that hasn't gone over to the Dark Side should just say sweet, fawning things about pathological liars, or find a new line of work altogether.

Well, that ain't gonna happen. So I'm really sorry, Kevin (Psst! No I'm not!), but I will mock and ridicule these jerk-offs every chance I get because THEY ARE WRONG! And so are you.

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Mother Jones: "Liberals Should Knock Off the Mockery Over Calls to Limit Syrian Refugees" (UPDATE) [View all] ericson00 Nov 2015 OP

I've been saying that from the beginning. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #1

the politics of contrarianism ericson00 Nov 2015 #4

That and just plain silliness. Like the "What could terrorist do to us Hortensis Nov 2015 #21

Valid concerns? LonePirate Nov 2015 #78

I don't think the liberal response edhopper Nov 2015 #2

Obama did it too. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #6

Those are some edhopper Nov 2015 #10

disregard for what? G_j Nov 2015 #60

+1... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #84

That particular concern was pretty ridiculous KamaAina Nov 2015 #70

I think the mockery has been coming from other (past & present) politicians and some media. razorman Nov 2015 #58

Agreed, but common sense is in short supply on both sides. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #3

I lulz'd KG Nov 2015 #5

Liberals, Democrats, Pres. Obama should knock off this whole issue. earthside Nov 2015 #7

So---keep our mouths shut and let the bigots say what they want---FUCK that stupid shit. trumad Nov 2015 #9

No is saying keep quiet FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #16

What 'public'? You mean the loud-mouth GOP, right? randome Nov 2015 #41

Very good points. Remember the Ebola Scare. Dismissing and mocking fear does not work. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #45

Exactly FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #53

No, not keep our mouth shut. Ignore the hype, address the real concerns and talk like magical thyme Nov 2015 #19

What would you propose edhopper Nov 2015 #11

Ridiculous comment. Darb Nov 2015 #14

I'm just offering a political opinion. earthside Nov 2015 #20

Here's what will happen, just like the ebola bullshit that was parroted here as well. Darb Nov 2015 #33

I tend to agree with your analysis. earthside Nov 2015 #38

Completely agree Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #15

Want to know who we should emulate? Doremus Nov 2015 #27

Syria is a very, very complex situation. Jim Beard Nov 2015 #62

Which is the other faction of which you speak? KamaAina Nov 2015 #71

Come on--- trumad Nov 2015 #8

Yep "How dare you highlight our own hypocrisy and not thinking things through, it's mocking to us!" ck4829 Nov 2015 #42

+1 Erose999 Nov 2015 #69

Some would then restrict their gun ownership Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #86

I think responses should be thoughtful BootinUp Nov 2015 #12

MoJones needs a reality check on the fearmongering about Syrian refugees bigtree Nov 2015 #13

Boston bombers, literally off the top of my head. Kurska Nov 2015 #29

yup. They emigrated to the US in 2002. magical thyme Nov 2015 #37

The Boston bombers were just kids at the time of their asylum. The older one was 16 in 2002 when Erose999 Nov 2015 #72

not exactly. it's uncertain whether he was radicalized in the US or in Dagestan. magical thyme Nov 2015 #80

The folks MoJo is chiding are folks who silently supported a 22 year immigration ban and travel Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #43

Exactlly, Why would I think Obama wouldn't somehow have a good, ordered, methodical, intelligent Johonny Nov 2015 #47

and here are a few who fortunately failed... magical thyme Nov 2015 #56

Excellent post Jim Beard Nov 2015 #65

and here are dozens of terrorists let in as refugees, with 2 arrested magical thyme Nov 2015 #83

I'd argue that hate and cowardice hurts nat'l security worse than bigotry Rose Siding Nov 2015 #17

Mother Jones is being stupid. Conservatives don't care how seriously we treat them. phantom power Nov 2015 #18

Bingo! Brainstormy Nov 2015 #23

word G_j Nov 2015 #25

Did you read the article? FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #26

Another bogus premise that I reject. There is no "centrist majority." phantom power Nov 2015 #28

The centrist majority are conservative democrats Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #85

11% of the electorate are centrists jeff47 Nov 2015 #31

Like it or not it's these swing voters who determine national elections. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #49

Nope, they aren't. jeff47 Nov 2015 #50

I think its more than 11% Jim Beard Nov 2015 #67

"Political independent" does not mean they will vote for both parties. jeff47 Nov 2015 #74

K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #22

To some people, it's the same old "news"---No Room at the Inn . . . for Syrian Christian refugees! Petrushka Nov 2015 #24

The first step in losing on an issue is to accept your opponent's framing. jeff47 Nov 2015 #30

+1e6 phantom power Nov 2015 #32

So that's why debating an issue never changes minds The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #48

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #55

I'm just saying that's why no debate ever changes minds The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #66

So your opinion is government is impossible, and civil war is the only way societies change? jeff47 Nov 2015 #75

Certainly at first The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #82

oh bullshit Kali Nov 2015 #34

testify phantom power Nov 2015 #35

Fuck your Mother... lame54 Nov 2015 #36

All these years of endless crimes, one after another by the GOP. The destruction of the economy Rex Nov 2015 #39

Tsk. Tsk. We need to coddle the conservatives and moderates...they're soooo sensitive. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #40

This person's concern is noted. I will now go back to mocking zenophobic bigotry Johonny Nov 2015 #44

Agreed. I've been concerned for a while about the prospect of inadequate vetting of refugees. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #46

If some kind of attack happens between now madville Nov 2015 #51

Yup. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #52

I don't even like to think how Bush woulda done had the 2004 election been in '02 ericson00 Nov 2015 #91

same thing can be said about mocking those who don't want blacks, gays and Jews in their Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #54

Our president and all of our candidates urge tight screening along with compassion for the refugees. pampango Nov 2015 #57

Can we at least mock Chris Christie for insisting he wouldn't consider even a 3-year-old Syrian tblue37 Nov 2015 #64

Mocking is never helpful. Alas, it seems to be growing with the age of the Internet. -eom- HuckleB Nov 2015 #59

Liberals shoot themselves on the foot with intellectual snobbery AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #61

Agreed 100% hifiguy Nov 2015 #63

Same writer supported the IWR in 2003. Same cynical neoliberal SHITE we heard back then. "Give the Erose999 Nov 2015 #68

Sorry, I call bullsh|t on bullsh|t underpants Nov 2015 #73

"...we should act like this is a legitimate thing to be concerned about and then work from there." gregcrawford Nov 2015 #76

Since they are based on bigotry, they are mockable eom treestar Nov 2015 #77

Pants-wetting bigots Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #79

No Solly Mack Nov 2015 #81

more Democrats are turning on this refugee thing: see the update link in OP ericson00 Nov 2015 #87

Sage advice. Dems should listen. Stinky The Clown Nov 2015 #88

Fuck that shit, I'm going to call cowards cowards. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #89

would rather not repeat the ss st louis dembotoz Nov 2015 #90