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Jesus Malverde

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85. The centrist majority are conservative democrats

Reply to phantom power (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:12 PM

Nov 2015

And socially liberal fiscal conservatives. They are demographics of both parties.

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Mother Jones: "Liberals Should Knock Off the Mockery Over Calls to Limit Syrian Refugees" (UPDATE) [View all] ericson00 Nov 2015 OP

I've been saying that from the beginning. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #1

the politics of contrarianism ericson00 Nov 2015 #4

That and just plain silliness. Like the "What could terrorist do to us Hortensis Nov 2015 #21

Valid concerns? LonePirate Nov 2015 #78

I don't think the liberal response edhopper Nov 2015 #2

Obama did it too. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #6

Those are some edhopper Nov 2015 #10

disregard for what? G_j Nov 2015 #60

+1... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #84

That particular concern was pretty ridiculous KamaAina Nov 2015 #70

I think the mockery has been coming from other (past & present) politicians and some media. razorman Nov 2015 #58

Agreed, but common sense is in short supply on both sides. NaturalHigh Nov 2015 #3

I lulz'd KG Nov 2015 #5

Liberals, Democrats, Pres. Obama should knock off this whole issue. earthside Nov 2015 #7

So---keep our mouths shut and let the bigots say what they want---FUCK that stupid shit. trumad Nov 2015 #9

No is saying keep quiet FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #16

What 'public'? You mean the loud-mouth GOP, right? randome Nov 2015 #41

Very good points. Remember the Ebola Scare. Dismissing and mocking fear does not work. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #45

Exactly FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #53

No, not keep our mouth shut. Ignore the hype, address the real concerns and talk like magical thyme Nov 2015 #19

What would you propose edhopper Nov 2015 #11

Ridiculous comment. Darb Nov 2015 #14

I'm just offering a political opinion. earthside Nov 2015 #20

Here's what will happen, just like the ebola bullshit that was parroted here as well. Darb Nov 2015 #33

I tend to agree with your analysis. earthside Nov 2015 #38

Completely agree Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #15

Want to know who we should emulate? Doremus Nov 2015 #27

Syria is a very, very complex situation. Jim Beard Nov 2015 #62

Which is the other faction of which you speak? KamaAina Nov 2015 #71

Come on--- trumad Nov 2015 #8

Yep "How dare you highlight our own hypocrisy and not thinking things through, it's mocking to us!" ck4829 Nov 2015 #42

+1 Erose999 Nov 2015 #69

Some would then restrict their gun ownership Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #86

I think responses should be thoughtful BootinUp Nov 2015 #12

MoJones needs a reality check on the fearmongering about Syrian refugees bigtree Nov 2015 #13

Boston bombers, literally off the top of my head. Kurska Nov 2015 #29

yup. They emigrated to the US in 2002. magical thyme Nov 2015 #37

The Boston bombers were just kids at the time of their asylum. The older one was 16 in 2002 when Erose999 Nov 2015 #72

not exactly. it's uncertain whether he was radicalized in the US or in Dagestan. magical thyme Nov 2015 #80

The folks MoJo is chiding are folks who silently supported a 22 year immigration ban and travel Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #43

Exactlly, Why would I think Obama wouldn't somehow have a good, ordered, methodical, intelligent Johonny Nov 2015 #47

and here are a few who fortunately failed... magical thyme Nov 2015 #56

Excellent post Jim Beard Nov 2015 #65

and here are dozens of terrorists let in as refugees, with 2 arrested magical thyme Nov 2015 #83

I'd argue that hate and cowardice hurts nat'l security worse than bigotry Rose Siding Nov 2015 #17

Mother Jones is being stupid. Conservatives don't care how seriously we treat them. phantom power Nov 2015 #18

Bingo! Brainstormy Nov 2015 #23

word G_j Nov 2015 #25

Did you read the article? FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #26

Another bogus premise that I reject. There is no "centrist majority." phantom power Nov 2015 #28

The centrist majority are conservative democrats Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #85

11% of the electorate are centrists jeff47 Nov 2015 #31

Like it or not it's these swing voters who determine national elections. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #49

Nope, they aren't. jeff47 Nov 2015 #50

I think its more than 11% Jim Beard Nov 2015 #67

"Political independent" does not mean they will vote for both parties. jeff47 Nov 2015 #74

K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #22

To some people, it's the same old "news"---No Room at the Inn . . . for Syrian Christian refugees! Petrushka Nov 2015 #24

The first step in losing on an issue is to accept your opponent's framing. jeff47 Nov 2015 #30

+1e6 phantom power Nov 2015 #32

So that's why debating an issue never changes minds The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #48

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #55

I'm just saying that's why no debate ever changes minds The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #66

So your opinion is government is impossible, and civil war is the only way societies change? jeff47 Nov 2015 #75

Certainly at first The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #82

oh bullshit Kali Nov 2015 #34

testify phantom power Nov 2015 #35

Fuck your Mother... lame54 Nov 2015 #36

All these years of endless crimes, one after another by the GOP. The destruction of the economy Rex Nov 2015 #39

Tsk. Tsk. We need to coddle the conservatives and moderates...they're soooo sensitive. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #40

This person's concern is noted. I will now go back to mocking zenophobic bigotry Johonny Nov 2015 #44

Agreed. I've been concerned for a while about the prospect of inadequate vetting of refugees. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #46

If some kind of attack happens between now madville Nov 2015 #51

Yup. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #52

I don't even like to think how Bush woulda done had the 2004 election been in '02 ericson00 Nov 2015 #91

same thing can be said about mocking those who don't want blacks, gays and Jews in their Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #54

Our president and all of our candidates urge tight screening along with compassion for the refugees. pampango Nov 2015 #57

Can we at least mock Chris Christie for insisting he wouldn't consider even a 3-year-old Syrian tblue37 Nov 2015 #64

Mocking is never helpful. Alas, it seems to be growing with the age of the Internet. -eom- HuckleB Nov 2015 #59

Liberals shoot themselves on the foot with intellectual snobbery AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #61

Agreed 100% hifiguy Nov 2015 #63

Same writer supported the IWR in 2003. Same cynical neoliberal SHITE we heard back then. "Give the Erose999 Nov 2015 #68

Sorry, I call bullsh|t on bullsh|t underpants Nov 2015 #73

"...we should act like this is a legitimate thing to be concerned about and then work from there." gregcrawford Nov 2015 #76

Since they are based on bigotry, they are mockable eom treestar Nov 2015 #77

Pants-wetting bigots Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #79

No Solly Mack Nov 2015 #81

more Democrats are turning on this refugee thing: see the update link in OP ericson00 Nov 2015 #87

Sage advice. Dems should listen. Stinky The Clown Nov 2015 #88

Fuck that shit, I'm going to call cowards cowards. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #89

would rather not repeat the ss st louis dembotoz Nov 2015 #90