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SickOfTheOnePct

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29. Two of the greatest butchers in history?

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:26 PM

Nov 2015

No, I don't think their monuments should have remained.

Are you seriously comparing Woodrow Wilson to Adolph Hitler and Josef Stalin?

And I'm with other posters - I'd like to know why you aren't holding FDR to the same standard as Wilson?

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Black Justice League: Remove Woodrow Wilson's name from Princeton [View all] philosslayer Nov 2015 OP

Very few actions were more racist than interring Japanese-American citizens like FDR did ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #1

President Roosevelt's actions... philosslayer Nov 2015 #2

Sounds like whitesplaining to me ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #3

I have no idea what "whitesplaining" is philosslayer Nov 2015 #4

The bottom line is, FDR did what he did, "justification" or not ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #5

Okay, you hate the Black Lives Matter movement philosslayer Nov 2015 #7

What a leap ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #9

Good call on Lincoln SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #12

Nothing like trying to rewrite history. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #73

There's no "but." Imprisoning Japanese, Italian and German Americans - REP Nov 2015 #13

Wilson's racism is particularly obnoxious in several ways: struggle4progress Nov 2015 #35

Wilson was not a great guy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #43

I don't question his entire legacy, but I think we should start telling the whole truth struggle4progress Nov 2015 #53

Exactly, and well said SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #54

Wilson didn't just reflect the culture of his times, though. Hortensis Nov 2015 #92

Wilson received 50% of the black (male) vote too. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #55

'... In the campaign of 1912, Wilson promised African-Americans struggle4progress Nov 2015 #56

That's nothing very specific, though Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #58

That's an interesting editorial struggle4progress Nov 2015 #59

Dr. Dubois was right about one thing though (pretty much) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #60

That could be struggle4progress Nov 2015 #90

Point of fact Wilson did not just segregate the civil service, he Re-segregated it after it had been Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #87

I'm not a historian, but it had been my impression that federal opportunities struggle4progress Nov 2015 #88

I believe that re-introduction of segregation to the civil service by Wilson Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #91

did you post in the wrong thread? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #46

No I didn't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #61

If BLM is concerned with making things better now SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #6

That is not a good excuse at all yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #19

We'll have to agree to disagree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #24

So should monuments to Hitler and Stalin remained? philosslayer Nov 2015 #26

Two of the greatest butchers in history? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #29

See post 25 philosslayer Nov 2015 #32

Is post 25 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #34

Clearly logic and reasoning is not your forte philosslayer Nov 2015 #36

I haven't seen you SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #39

...the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. TipTok Nov 2015 #82

Doesn't shock me at all. He was a Repug after all. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #84

Getting 'wrapped up' in history is an anathema to the under-educated... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #80

I'm sorry you weren't able to understand what I was saying SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #86

Get ready to purge lots of names from lecture halls Yorktown Nov 2015 #8

I'd settle for Confederates JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #10

Not even that Yorktown Nov 2015 #16

My dad was an awesome Green Beret - one of the first ones JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #70

Thanks & congrats to your father for his service Yorktown Nov 2015 #74

I absolutely agree struggle4progress Nov 2015 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #11

Is there something in the dining hall water or something this year? NuclearDem Nov 2015 #14

Do you want to defend President Wilsons racial legacy? philosslayer Nov 2015 #17

Not fooling anyone. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #20

Again, no specifics, just ad hominem attacks philosslayer Nov 2015 #22

Upthread you defend FDR, who had virtually identical domestic and military policy towards AAs NuclearDem Nov 2015 #23

I defended no one philosslayer Nov 2015 #25

When you say SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #41

It is always interesting that Wilson is one of the first names that comes up.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #33

Is BLM rife with conservative libertarians? philosslayer Nov 2015 #37

Oh they aren't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #38

where do we stop? Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #57

Yeah! go BLM notadmblnd Nov 2015 #15

Fine, he was Colonial/racist, and taught me Idealism/Progressivism. UTUSN Nov 2015 #18

Swell guy thiat Wilson (not) Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #21

Woodrow Wilson advanced progressivism far more than most prior Presidents. cigsandcoffee Nov 2015 #27

He advanced and extended segregation too. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #31

It will be interesting to see the compromise reached on this Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #28

Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #30

This isn't BLM MFrohike Nov 2015 #40

Good mwrguy Nov 2015 #42

He's the monster responsible for the Federal Reserve and the Revenue Act of 1913. Reter Nov 2015 #44

BLM has nothing to do with this---why bring them up? virgogal Nov 2015 #45

Washington and Jefferson were racists who each owned hundreds of slaves, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #47

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #48

The only history that matters is by people who we judge thru today's lense and pass. X_Digger Nov 2015 #51

This place has removed my ability to judge if people are serious or not... TipTok Nov 2015 #83

Yes, I should have put a :sarcasm: tag. ;) n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #93

Just go down the list 1939 Nov 2015 #72

Quick, whitewash history away! It's not like we have to remember that shit or anything. n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #49

Whitewash? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #52

You in danger girl. -Whoppi romanic Nov 2015 #65

philoslayer, please make the title change to the Black Justice League Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #50

There is no formal organization named Black Justice League, it is very likely a Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #62

Do you have any receipts (evidence) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #63

The evidence is there is no formal organization for either name and that instant charge of racism is Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #64

Woodrow Wilson WAS a racist Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #66

You are missing the point and this is meant to cause more harm to African Americans. Notice Wilson Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #68

Why would black students at Stanford attack Hoover? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #69

Shhhh and don't tell them JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #71

I was about to bring up Harding's speech Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #75

Then he turned right around JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #76

we cannot erase our history! ericson00 Nov 2015 #67

Hmmmm Jake Stern Nov 2015 #77

Why is it that extremists and fundamentalists of all creeds, TM99 Nov 2015 #78

The nation's flag should be redesigned while we're at it. Throd Nov 2015 #79

I knew Princeton would go to hell when Valerie Smith left to become Pres of Swarthmore tishaLA Nov 2015 #81

The Black Justice League... TipTok Nov 2015 #85