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Chitown Kev

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60. Dr. Dubois was right about one thing though (pretty much)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:19 AM

Nov 2015

from the editorial:

"...if he becomes the President by the grace of the black man's vote, his Democratic successors may be more willing to pay the black man's price of decent travel, free labor, votes, and education."

Dr. Dubois was kind of right about that. No Democratic president (with the exception of FDR in 1932) has ignored the black vote. Granted that we didn't get everything that we wanted (FDR would not advocate an anti-lynching law and did not sign an EO desegregating the military...but we did get Eleanor!) but Wilson was the last Democratic president that ignored and disregarded the black vote during his time in office.

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Black Justice League: Remove Woodrow Wilson's name from Princeton [View all] philosslayer Nov 2015 OP

Very few actions were more racist than interring Japanese-American citizens like FDR did ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #1

President Roosevelt's actions... philosslayer Nov 2015 #2

Sounds like whitesplaining to me ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #3

I have no idea what "whitesplaining" is philosslayer Nov 2015 #4

The bottom line is, FDR did what he did, "justification" or not ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #5

Okay, you hate the Black Lives Matter movement philosslayer Nov 2015 #7

What a leap ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #9

Good call on Lincoln SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #12

Nothing like trying to rewrite history. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #73

There's no "but." Imprisoning Japanese, Italian and German Americans - REP Nov 2015 #13

Wilson's racism is particularly obnoxious in several ways: struggle4progress Nov 2015 #35

Wilson was not a great guy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #43

I don't question his entire legacy, but I think we should start telling the whole truth struggle4progress Nov 2015 #53

Exactly, and well said SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #54

Wilson didn't just reflect the culture of his times, though. Hortensis Nov 2015 #92

Wilson received 50% of the black (male) vote too. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #55

'... In the campaign of 1912, Wilson promised African-Americans struggle4progress Nov 2015 #56

That's nothing very specific, though Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #58

That's an interesting editorial struggle4progress Nov 2015 #59

Dr. Dubois was right about one thing though (pretty much) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #60

That could be struggle4progress Nov 2015 #90

Point of fact Wilson did not just segregate the civil service, he Re-segregated it after it had been Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #87

I'm not a historian, but it had been my impression that federal opportunities struggle4progress Nov 2015 #88

I believe that re-introduction of segregation to the civil service by Wilson Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #91

did you post in the wrong thread? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #46

No I didn't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #61

If BLM is concerned with making things better now SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #6

That is not a good excuse at all yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #19

We'll have to agree to disagree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #24

So should monuments to Hitler and Stalin remained? philosslayer Nov 2015 #26

Two of the greatest butchers in history? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #29

See post 25 philosslayer Nov 2015 #32

Is post 25 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #34

Clearly logic and reasoning is not your forte philosslayer Nov 2015 #36

I haven't seen you SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #39

...the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. TipTok Nov 2015 #82

Doesn't shock me at all. He was a Repug after all. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #84

Getting 'wrapped up' in history is an anathema to the under-educated... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #80

I'm sorry you weren't able to understand what I was saying SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #86

Get ready to purge lots of names from lecture halls Yorktown Nov 2015 #8

I'd settle for Confederates JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #10

Not even that Yorktown Nov 2015 #16

My dad was an awesome Green Beret - one of the first ones JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #70

Thanks & congrats to your father for his service Yorktown Nov 2015 #74

I absolutely agree struggle4progress Nov 2015 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #11

Is there something in the dining hall water or something this year? NuclearDem Nov 2015 #14

Do you want to defend President Wilsons racial legacy? philosslayer Nov 2015 #17

Not fooling anyone. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #20

Again, no specifics, just ad hominem attacks philosslayer Nov 2015 #22

Upthread you defend FDR, who had virtually identical domestic and military policy towards AAs NuclearDem Nov 2015 #23

I defended no one philosslayer Nov 2015 #25

When you say SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #41

It is always interesting that Wilson is one of the first names that comes up.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #33

Is BLM rife with conservative libertarians? philosslayer Nov 2015 #37

Oh they aren't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #38

where do we stop? Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #57

Yeah! go BLM notadmblnd Nov 2015 #15

Fine, he was Colonial/racist, and taught me Idealism/Progressivism. UTUSN Nov 2015 #18

Swell guy thiat Wilson (not) Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #21

Woodrow Wilson advanced progressivism far more than most prior Presidents. cigsandcoffee Nov 2015 #27

He advanced and extended segregation too. Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #31

It will be interesting to see the compromise reached on this Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #28

Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #30

This isn't BLM MFrohike Nov 2015 #40

Good mwrguy Nov 2015 #42

He's the monster responsible for the Federal Reserve and the Revenue Act of 1913. Reter Nov 2015 #44

BLM has nothing to do with this---why bring them up? virgogal Nov 2015 #45

Washington and Jefferson were racists who each owned hundreds of slaves, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #47

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #48

The only history that matters is by people who we judge thru today's lense and pass. X_Digger Nov 2015 #51

This place has removed my ability to judge if people are serious or not... TipTok Nov 2015 #83

Yes, I should have put a :sarcasm: tag. ;) n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #93

Just go down the list 1939 Nov 2015 #72

Quick, whitewash history away! It's not like we have to remember that shit or anything. n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #49

Whitewash? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #52

You in danger girl. -Whoppi romanic Nov 2015 #65

philoslayer, please make the title change to the Black Justice League Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #50

There is no formal organization named Black Justice League, it is very likely a Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #62

Do you have any receipts (evidence) Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #63

The evidence is there is no formal organization for either name and that instant charge of racism is Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #64

Woodrow Wilson WAS a racist Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #66

You are missing the point and this is meant to cause more harm to African Americans. Notice Wilson Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #68

Why would black students at Stanford attack Hoover? Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #69

Shhhh and don't tell them JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #71

I was about to bring up Harding's speech Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #75

Then he turned right around JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #76

we cannot erase our history! ericson00 Nov 2015 #67

Hmmmm Jake Stern Nov 2015 #77

Why is it that extremists and fundamentalists of all creeds, TM99 Nov 2015 #78

The nation's flag should be redesigned while we're at it. Throd Nov 2015 #79

I knew Princeton would go to hell when Valerie Smith left to become Pres of Swarthmore tishaLA Nov 2015 #81

The Black Justice League... TipTok Nov 2015 #85