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BlueMTexpat

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23. That is so.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Nov 2015

Basically, the idea of the Schengen Agreement was to make travel - and employment - within European countries as easy as travel and employment between states of the US or between provinces in Canada, etc. Even though Schengen was mostly implemented in the 90s and did not include Switzerland, the Swiss voted (by referendum, which is the usual major decision-making technique here) in 2005 to become part of Schengen.

This is one reason why my unfortunate friend got caught up in her expensive dilemma. She moved from here to Thailand in 2003 and had not realized how Switzerland's joining the Schengen area during her absence might also affect residence requirements in Schengen areas.

The UK and Ireland, both EU members, had opt-out provisions. These opt-out provisions are not available for new members of the EU, however. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement#History

More recent EU members, primarily from Eastern Europe and often with questionable histories of treatment of their own minorities (culminating in significant collaboration with the Nazi Regime in the 20th century to send their own Jewish and Roma minorities, among others, to concentration camps/gas chambers) are not happy about the Schengen requirements - as evidenced by the RW in Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Czech especially. Shame on them, IMO!

People too often focus on the open borders aspect as a minus. They conveniently forget its other aspect: to provide equal opportunity and footing for all EU nationals in Schengen countries, which is why it is much easier for Schengen-area nationals to be employed anywhere in the Schengen-EU area than it is generally for non-Schengen-non-EU nationals, including US citizens.

In my friend's case, this made a significant difference for employment. Prior to 2005, she was able to teach courses on a part-time basis at the Geneva branch of Webster University, even when she was not a resident of Switzerland. After 2005, she no longer had that option because the University would have had to make a specific determination that she was more qualified than any Schengen Area national. This would have been very difficult to do since she taught humanities courses rather than scientific or technical courses.

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We can only hope SoCalNative Nov 2015 #1
Why? eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #2
Because while it's nice to travel unemcumbered SoCalNative Nov 2015 #5
I live in Europe. BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #7
I currently live in Europe too SoCalNative Nov 2015 #10
Ah yes, passport controls BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #12
"People must present passports to enter the Schengen zone SoCalNative Nov 2015 #14
Amsterdam and Berlin BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #18
When I first moved here SoCalNative Nov 2015 #22
That is so. BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #23
Wow TransitJohn Nov 2015 #16
Two things are going to happen: EL34x4 Nov 2015 #3
It's sad but Schengen has to go LittleBlue Nov 2015 #4
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #8
Yes. n/t Moondog Nov 2015 #6
Liberal post-war Europe is gone. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #9
Yes. The right hates Schengen and loves nationalism with its strong borders. It is coming back. pampango Nov 2015 #11
My sister in law and her family crossed the border yesterday from France to Geneva CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #13
By Sunday, things were a bit looser, I understand. BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #21
The EU is not a unified polity. In a democracy the citizens need democratic control CJCRANE Nov 2015 #15
So Terrorists aren't just helping to destroy the U.S., but Europe as well AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #17
I love how so many here - presumably US citizens - BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #19
Well, the area is named after a small town in Luxembourg where the treaty was signed DFW Nov 2015 #20
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