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Proud Liberal Dem

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30. Sorry

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:19 PM

Nov 2015

I can't agree with you on this. I personally just hope that this bill doesn't even get through the Senate. Maybe Bernie can launch a filibuster? After a few weeks and nothing more happens (what happened didn't even happen here in the US for crissakes), the furor will probably die down and the media and candidates will move on to the next "shiny object". If the 2016 election was more imminent, I'd be a lot more worried but we still have time for things to die down and for everybody to re-focus to other topics. Anybody still talking much about Ebola after being a year out? There was a bunch of fear and paranoia ginned up over that and we were seeing the same kind of paranoia and fear running amok over refugees whom stand almost no likelihood of harming anybody- that ultimately amounted to nothing. Maybe I'm wrong/naive but it seems like a bigger issue now than it probably will be in a little under a year. And it hasn't even been a full week since everything happened in Paris. Interesting what gets the Republicans in Congress to do a little work, eh?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] blueinindiana Nov 2015 OP

So surrender to bigotry and fear. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #1

I think we should wait to Saturday to see if this issue is really a problem for voters yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #55

I would like to see a true fredamae Nov 2015 #2

Let them vote...Obama should follow through with a veto and let them override it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #3

+1 cheapdate Nov 2015 #4

Obama did say he woudl veto the House bill. riversedge Nov 2015 #10

I agree - no democrat president should ever bow down before jwirr Nov 2015 #49

Yes, no DemocratIC president should ever do that. randys1 Nov 2015 #101

Agree! mountain grammy Nov 2015 #91

Damn straight! bunnies Nov 2015 #93

That's just ridiculous. PSPS Nov 2015 #5

sorry G_j Nov 2015 #6

I agree with you. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #7

Tell me something atreides1 Nov 2015 #32

"Where exactly is the line that you won't cross?" FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #35

I do not agree with Trump or the republicans at all when it comes to demonizing smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #36

'if they sweep the elections ...' Trajan Nov 2015 #40

You will under a republican dominated administration. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #42

Yes, and if Martians landed and forced radioactive potato chips up my ass Trajan Nov 2015 #44

LOL! Are you drunk or something? Your post is just bizarre. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #48

Sen Feinstien is sponcering a Senate bill as an alternative to the draconian House bill riversedge Nov 2015 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Nov 2015 #17

her bill requires people who have gone to Syria or Iraq to get a travel visa dlwickham Nov 2015 #26

What's with the spamming of the right wing crap rockfordfile Nov 2015 #9

My personal favorite is "Why can't liberals accept conservative values, policies, and candidates?" Iggo Nov 2015 #18

14th Amendment is about protecting minorities from the bigoted majority. FAIL. merrily Nov 2015 #11

The 14th Amendment doesn't apply to foreign nationals trying to come to the U.S. SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #56

Really? Give me your analysis on that, using the plain language of the Constitution or a merrily Nov 2015 #57

FYI. SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #59

"every person in the world could claim U.S. Constitutional rights." merrily Nov 2015 #60

So how do you believe that someone in France SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #62

I already answered that. The Constitution always applies to the US government. merrily Nov 2015 #71

The Constitution empowers the US government to do COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #63

Your bare declaration does not do it anymore than the other poster's. merrily Nov 2015 #70

And your thesis is totally unsupported by any jurisprudence. COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #77

My thesis that 3 different terms for a human in the same section are not interchangeable is merrily Nov 2015 #78

You're running down a rabbit hole of your own making COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #79

You don't run down a rabbit hole You fall into one. Words have meanings. Person does not have the merrily Nov 2015 #80

Actually, rabbits do. Humans would be quite COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #81

eye roll. I cannot give you three years of law school on a message board and for free. But here's a merrily Nov 2015 #83

Oh, come on now. As a trained, legal professional you should COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #84

I never said I am a trained legal professional. However, I've answered your unsupported claims time merrily Nov 2015 #85

I already knew that, even though you mightily COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #87

Your reading comprehension is no better than your analysis: I never said I wasn't, either. merrily Nov 2015 #88

Doesn't matter. COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #90

You're right. But I think the real power of the feds on this is in Article 1. merrily Nov 2015 #74

A law that treat Chinese people or black people differently here in the U.S.? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #98

Good luck trying to convince our COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #95

Political cowardice. Democrats should have been out in front of this, and demostrating leadership Cognitive_Resonance Nov 2015 #12

I normally acknowledge that political realities cannot be ignored. randome Nov 2015 #13

Your bigotry and cowardice are noted... n/t backscatter712 Nov 2015 #14

No. What's clear is that a majority of the House wants that. Iggo Nov 2015 #15

that's a big 'ol wheel barrel of bull spanone Nov 2015 #16

It sure as hell DOES matter what the facts are! demwing Nov 2015 #19

"It is very clear the majority of Americans want at the very least pause or review of......." Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #20

Leaders lead and wimps follow the whims and fears of the masses. Pisces Nov 2015 #21

That would be a factor in the republicans keeping the Senate Joe Turner Nov 2015 #22

Yet there is far more domestic terrorism from home-grown Christians. What's to be done about it? randome Nov 2015 #25

I'll file this in the Loony Bin Joe Turner Nov 2015 #27

Why? Because white, male, religious kooks aren't 'true' Christians? randome Nov 2015 #45

Please explain why this is loony ellie Nov 2015 #65

The bill that was passed is a joke. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #23

The House only has a Republican majority due to gerrymandering DFW Nov 2015 #24

The elections are a long way away edhopper Nov 2015 #28

It's very clear? abelenkpe Nov 2015 #29

Sorry Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #30

I strongly disagree. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #31

and I agree with you. For me the mark is against the supporters of this pile of bigoted fake concern Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #34

OP, I disagree with you because you and I an everyone can be made to forget this kerfuffel long Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #33

FYI Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #37

And I'm sure this won't be the last ridiculous OP we see here. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #38

And the last bad alert Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #39

Pfft Solly Mack Nov 2015 #41

Representatives should do what "we" want alc Nov 2015 #43

Most Americans supported the Iraq War in 2002 & early 2003. Drunken Irishman Nov 2015 #47

"Bend"? Or, surrender....again? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #46

Thanks for your concern tabasco Nov 2015 #50

I'll stand with the facts--fuck the fear eom Maeve Nov 2015 #51

Yep, and I'll stand with you. I'll be damned if I'll give up my integrity for some dumb fucks. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #53

You don't win elections via cowardice. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #52

Huh? valerief Nov 2015 #54

agreed 100%, and god forbid if there is an attack or even an attempted attack.... Joe the Revelator Nov 2015 #58

OMG! You fucking fall for the hype! I assume you want another Patriot Act! nt Logical Nov 2015 #68

I think you're right, but I also think taking them in is the right thing to do. Marr Nov 2015 #61

I think that was the political calculus in 2003 when voting for the IWR loyalsister Nov 2015 #64

This sort of thing is why we lose elections. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #66

LOL, wow, even the DU caves to fear. And ISIS is laughing their asses off. nt Logical Nov 2015 #69

You said it! SomethingFishy Nov 2015 #97

+1000 nt Logical Nov 2015 #100

More like a Jackson Browne song...(is your name ironic?) SalviaBlue Nov 2015 #94

"Facts do not win elections, perception does." There's a republican mantra if there ever was one. pampango Nov 2015 #67

Concern noted, Darb Nov 2015 #72

Actually, facts do win elections. bemildred Nov 2015 #73

This is an Iraq War Resolution Moment Cosmocat Nov 2015 #75

This issue will be forgotten by the electorate in 11.5 months when Election Day arrives. LonePirate Nov 2015 #76

What a fail! Silly silly stance! nt Logical Nov 2015 #82

You did get obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2015 #86

Nothing like kissing bigot ass to win elections. JEB Nov 2015 #89

No, I strongly disagree! n/t mountain grammy Nov 2015 #92

Oh for fucks sakes... SomethingFishy Nov 2015 #96

I don't care. alarimer Nov 2015 #99

NEVER bow to bigotry randys1 Nov 2015 #102