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eridani

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Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:17 AM Nov 2015

UnitedHealth May Quit Obamacare in Blow to Health Law [View all]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/unitedhealth-may-pull-out-of-obamacare-marketplace-stock-slides

The biggest U.S. health insurer is considering pulling out of Obamacare as it loses hundreds of millions of dollars on the program, casting a pall over President Barack Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement.

UnitedHealth Group Inc. has scaled back marketing efforts for plans sold to individuals this year and may quit the business entirely in 2017.

While millions of Americans have gained coverage under Obamacare since new government-run marketplaces for the plans opened in late 2013, in UnitedHealth’s case they haven’t been the most profitable. Customers the company has added have tended to use more medical care. UnitedHealth also said today that some people are signing up for coverage, getting care and then dropping their policies.

“We cannot sustain these losses,” Chief Executive Officer Stephen Hemsley told analysts on a conference call. “We can’t really subsidize a marketplace that doesn’t appear at the moment to be sustaining itself.”

UnitedHealth said it expects as much as $500 million in losses on the Obamacare plans in 2016.


Comment by Don McCanne of PNHP: The Affordable Care Act was designed by the nation’s largest insurers to serve the interests of the nation’s largest insurers. It was almost as if the patients were not much more than a necessary nuisance, required only because an insurance market requires patients to purchase their plans. How is it working out for the insurers?

The largest insurer in the nation - UnitedHealth - has scaled back their marketing of ACA exchange plans and is considering totally exiting the exchanges by the end of next year. Two of the other largest insurers - Anthem and Aetna - have yet to profit from the exchanges and are waiting to see if the exchange business will improve before they decide about the future.

It is no secret what happened. The insurers had to agree to crucial reforms in the insurance market. They had to accept higher cost individuals with preexisting disorders; they had to cover ten categories of health care benefits; they had to limit excess administrative costs and profits by agreeing to minimum medical loss ratios, and they had to submit higher premium increases to insurance regulators for greater public scrutiny.

In other words, they had to agree to market basic insurance products to anyone who was eligible for them. With these requirements, premiums would be unaffordable for all but the wealthy. Thus ACA was crafted to keep premiums down by making lower actuarial value plans the standard - requiring greater cost sharing by patients, though with government subsidies for lower-income individuals. ACA also was crafted to provide government subsidies for the premiums to assist lower-income individuals with the purchase of these plans. That still was not enough so they used the leverage of narrow provider networks to contract for cheaper medical services, and they increased the deductibles, shifting more of their costs to patients.

Guess what. It isn’t working - for the insurers or the patients. Congress dumped on us an administratively complex system that has made it almost impossible for the insurers to offer a product with affordable premiums that still meets the basic plan elements required by the legislation. For the patients, the premiums and deductibles are not affordable for the average family, and they have had to give up their health care choices because of the narrow networks selected by the insurers.

Congress and the Obama administration did this one for the insurers. Yet the insurers are beginning to back out now. That’s just fine because it will allow us to replace them with a financing plan that is designed for patients instead. A well designed single payer national health program would make health care affordable for everyone while returning to them their choices in health care delivery.

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sounds to me more like they don't having to pay out claims and limit their profit to 20% hollysmom Nov 2015 #1
Not disputing the problems, but I think the medical loss ratio applies to employer group plans too. Hoyt Nov 2015 #2
We are already spending more per capita than any other country in the world for worse outcomes eridani Nov 2015 #10
Good luck explaining that to people. Check how it went in Vermont. Hoyt Nov 2015 #12
Not at the national level. But many states are working for single payer at the state level eridani Nov 2015 #14
Nope not recommending that. Stating the way it is, as Vermont discovered. Hoyt Nov 2015 #16
If we changed people's opinions on marriage equality, we can change them on single payer n/t eridani Nov 2015 #17
By 2030 if we are lucky. Hoyt Nov 2015 #18
That's what people said about marriage equality ten years ago eridani Nov 2015 #19
If they are loosing 500 million a year on thlse plans I dont blame them for pulling out. Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #3
I'd like to know what their profits are annualy. Saphire Nov 2015 #5
Its public information Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #6
Good riddance. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #4
status quo was failing. now attempt to prop up status quo is failing. how long before we simply dump magical thyme Nov 2015 #7
I'm still in limbo UglyGreed Nov 2015 #8
universal single payer medical care KentuckyWoman Nov 2015 #9
united sucks dembotoz Nov 2015 #11
Fuck UHC. They wait until the 89th day to pay things that are due on day 90. X_Digger Nov 2015 #13
CEO of UnitedHealth Group Stephen J Hemsley made $66 million dollars in 2014 nationalize the fed Nov 2015 #15
word. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2015 #21
DakotaCare (my obamacare insurer) is dumping their obamacare patients and doubling my premium TheFrenchRazor Nov 2015 #20
So much for the "corporate welfare" claim nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #22
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