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In reply to the discussion: Democrats push to prevent gun sales to those on terror list [View all]benEzra
(12,148 posts)here are some reminders:
Unlikely Suspects (ACLU)
No-fly blacklist snares political activists
Marshals: Innocent People Placed On 'Watch List' To Meet Quota
Infants on the Terrorist Watch List
Nine years on the no-fly list because an agent checked the wrong box
How YOU could end up on the no-fly list
Various blacklist absurdities
Senator Kennedy Flagged by No-Fly List
Question: If you think being placed on a secret surveillance list without being charged with even the most minuscule crime makes you so dangerous that you need to be barred from something as mundane as owning a gun, do you think that "watchlisted" individuals should be able to drive a tanker carrying 30,000 pounds of gasoline other hazardous chemicals through populated areas? Work at a school, sports stadium, chemical factory, or hospital? Serve as a police officer or security guard? Work for the Federal government? If you are willing to consider someone that dangerous simply because their name is on a list of people to check out, how far do you want to take it?
"So use the National Rifle Association's & repubs own logic."
"No Fly, No Buy" is a Republican proposal dating to 2005, and a mixed bag of "Tough On Civil Liberties" legislators, both (R) and (D), have been pushing this crap since the Bush Admin proposed it. One of the most prominent advocates is Republican Peter King, whose views on Muslim-Americans are well known and widely criticized.
It's been well demonstrated that if you yell "GUNNNZ!!" instead of "TERRAH!!", then there are plenty of people who will lose their collective minds and endorse all kinds of authoritarian crap (remember stop-and-frisk? warrantless searches of public housing?), and it appears to me that this is the case here as well.