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moondust

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15. Um...

Reply to Cleita (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:51 PM

Nov 2015

was this in reference to the Visa Waiver Program (VWP)?

...more than a third of French and Spanish passport holders held a non-machine readable version)...

If so, I think it just refers to anybody who has a passport from a European country not having to obtain a visa to enter the U.S. They can just show their European passport and walk in. Many in Washington apparently want to change that because it could allow some terrorists living in Brussels and elsewhere in Europe to enter the U.S. without a thorough check of who they are.

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"holders of European passports" wtf? [View all] Cleita Nov 2015 OP

Good catch. The propaganda machine is in full force. arcane1 Nov 2015 #1

It sure is. It looks like they are priming us for an all out ME war starting with a full Cleita Nov 2015 #2

You seem to have come in right in the middle of your thought. What are you saying? MADem Nov 2015 #3

I am irritated by racist dog whistle code words and phrases. Cleita Nov 2015 #4

You don't want to give MSNBC the traffic? They're about as good as we will get--even if you don't MADem Nov 2015 #5

Well that explains a lot to me about your political thought Cleita Nov 2015 #10

You prefer FOX or CNN? OK. MADem Nov 2015 #18

I don't watch them either, ever. I still watch some MSNBC Cleita Nov 2015 #20

I don't, I will be quite frank with you, though--I was actually concerned about the MADem Nov 2015 #26

Do not take this personally. To me you and most of DU are nothing more Cleita Nov 2015 #27

I still don't know which anchor, or what he said. MADem Nov 2015 #28

My post #4 says who it was and on which show and channel. Cleita Nov 2015 #29

I'm still at a loss. I'm not going to watch a two hour show to find a point of offense. MADem Nov 2015 #30

Of course you aren't going to watch it, even if I could find a video and pinpointed the exact minute Cleita Nov 2015 #32

Honestly, all I wanted to know was what you were so mad about. I still don't know. nt MADem Nov 2015 #33

I'm not mad, angry or even mildly miffed. I am pointing out an injustice that is happening Cleita Nov 2015 #34

Dare I ask "What was the injustice?" nt MADem Nov 2015 #35

We'd need context, though muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #6

That is your problem - you are listening to Comcast's paid liars. AngryAmish Nov 2015 #14

Also, I hold an EU passport and an EU citizen. AngryAmish Nov 2015 #17

It sonda stupid to me. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #7

Complain to the anchor. He said it not me. eom. Cleita Nov 2015 #9

Of course my comment is about the anchor. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #12

Sorry. I see now what you meant. eom Cleita Nov 2015 #13

Heck, Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #23

KnR--and I'd add that it's the "weak Europe" angle too--that even 9-11 was ultimately MisterP Nov 2015 #8

Yes, it's all there in two small but loaded words. eom Cleita Nov 2015 #11

Um... moondust Nov 2015 #15

He was referring specifically to the Belgium born terrorists. Cleita Nov 2015 #16

Visa Waiver is NOT just "walk in." You have to get cleared at the embassy first. MADem Nov 2015 #19

Thanks. moondust Nov 2015 #21

It's called ESTA DFW Nov 2015 #22

There it is!!! nt MADem Nov 2015 #24

To me it would depend on the context. kiva Nov 2015 #25

He was talking about the Paris massacre and I have said so in various posts. Cleita Nov 2015 #31

OK, we are interpreting this differently I think. kiva Nov 2015 #36