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39. Transgender and homosexuality are not interchangeable.

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:50 AM

Nov 2015

While Iran's policy in regards to transgender issues revolving around sex reassignment is admirable, it's policy on homosexuality is

Illegal
Penalty: For men 74 lashes for immature men and death penalty for mature men of sound mind and is consenting. For women 50 lashes for women of mature sound mind and is consenting. Death penalty offense after fourth conviction.[38]

It doesn't vary too much from Saudi Arabia:

Illegal
Penalty: Prison sentences of several months to life, fines and/or whipping/flogging, castration, torture or death can be sentenced on first conviction. A second conviction merits execution.[38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#Asia

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Help me out understand this, DU! Why are we still allies with Saudi Arabia?? [View all] darkangel218 Nov 2015 OP

We get less than 20% of our oil from them, it could be less. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #1

13% in 2014. n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #63

Yeah. I'd say it's the OIL. n/t inanna Nov 2015 #2

Do you know that Iran provides transgender surgery almost free of charge? 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #3

I wasn't aware of that, wow!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #4

Well, Iran hangs gays.. Yorktown Nov 2015 #7

They still don't get a pass from me. Maybe it's the 16 yo girls they hang on the public boulevards trillion Nov 2015 #34

Okay, it looks like they do, but being gay comes with possible execution trillion Nov 2015 #37

Transgender and homosexuality are not interchangeable. Behind the Aegis Nov 2015 #39

I believe it is forced transgender surgery if you are gay Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #40

Looks like the HuffPost writer has a long history of putting out Pro-Iranian propaganda... 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #54

Why are we still allies with Israel? Steven the Somnolent Nov 2015 #5

I don't think we can compare SA with Israel. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #9

Talk to a Palestinian Steven the Somnolent Nov 2015 #12

Gotcha. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #13

Also, care to elaborate on that? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #11

We just made the largest wepons sale in history to Saudi Arabia. newthinking Nov 2015 #6

+1 RiverLover Nov 2015 #41

We sell them lots of weapons. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #8

AHA! Thank you. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #10

Because our elites are idiots MFrohike Nov 2015 #14

A more important question is why are we fighting their war for them? 6000eliot Nov 2015 #15

That too. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #16

"Follow the money." Best, briefest political advice ever given. merrily Nov 2015 #47

having spent more than 20 years there - I will say this - As bad as the royal family is - and they Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #17

I disagree with you. How much worse can it get?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #18

most likely the matawa - the "religious police" would be the only cohesive group who could take Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #19

We still shouldn't consider them "allies". darkangel218 Nov 2015 #20

allies is probably not the best word - machiavellian symbiotic relationship is more the situation Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #21

Well, thats just sick. IMHO. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #22

True, same with Saddam treestar Nov 2015 #30

having lived there myself i agree 100% NuttyFluffers Nov 2015 #43

Two obvious reasons: Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #23

I don't understand the second reason. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #24

Imagine what the Arabian peninsula would be like A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #27

It's not stable as we speak darkangel218 Nov 2015 #28

It's a hell of a lot more stable now than it would be with a power vacuum. n/t A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #29

the 911 terrorists being from there treestar Nov 2015 #31

Really? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #32

Real quick. What's your operating definition of "stability"? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #36

There is no stability with barbarians. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #38

Right, so you're just throwing words around Scootaloo Nov 2015 #59

Daesh has carved out a nation sized territory made up of parts of actual nations. Not stable. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #50

Look at Syria. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #56

A force for stability? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #52

Yes, as I pointed out. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #58

No, I think GHWB made the initial error JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #64

Sadam disproves your number two reason PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #66

Opposites attract. We're Yin, they're Yang. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #25

Lol. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #26

They complete us. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #45

They had us at "Hello". Smarmie Doofus Nov 2015 #57

Money. and yes, they are about to behead, crucify, and hang upside down, teenagers who protested trillion Nov 2015 #33

Sickening :'( darkangel218 Nov 2015 #35

My cousin is an RN who worked in SA for awhile, years ago. polly7 Nov 2015 #55

Worst country on earth. Worst culture on earth. hifiguy Nov 2015 #69

Malik lived most of her life in SA apparently. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #71

Because of Wall Street and 911 Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #42

oil = dollars Locrian Nov 2015 #44

America has enough people, land and resources to thrive CJCRANE Nov 2015 #48

sure it does Locrian Nov 2015 #49

That question has gone mainstream in Belgium BelgianMadCow Nov 2015 #46

Oil - Oil - Oil cantbeserious Nov 2015 #51

Follow the money hobbit709 Nov 2015 #53

Simple. KamaAina Nov 2015 #60

$ Glassunion Nov 2015 #61

Because Saudi Arabia competes with Iran for political dominance in the Middle East Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #62

"Money trumps peace" PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #65

By default. Xolodno Nov 2015 #67

They are splended customers of the Merchants of Death. hifiguy Nov 2015 #68

So it turns out that one of the shooters spent most of her life in SA darkangel218 Dec 2015 #70