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Bolo Boffin

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48. "Avoid asking who passed the stimulus?" Except that Nutting
Mon May 28, 2012, 02:52 PM
May 2012

credited Obama with the stimulus spending. It's right there in his graph. Check out the asterisk.

So right off the bat, this right wing swill is pulling the wool over your eyes. The very first line!

Then "But Obama gets credit for FY 2009 jobs." It ignores the stimulus spending which Nutting credits to Obama, not Bush. And Romney and other right wingers are HAPPY to credit Obama with 2009 job losses/gains, because they have been crowing about all those jobs Obama lost. Start crediting Obama at the stimulus or even at the beginning of FY 2010, and all those job losses become job gains. There's a reason the RWNJs cut off the chart at the beginning of 2010 - it's all job gains from there on out. Can't be showing that!

For numbers 2 and 3 (which actually are one point), Nutting uses CBO estimates for Obama for only 2 years - 2012 and 2013. For the other years, he uses actual spending. Take a guess why. I'll wait here while you think about it, here on May 28, 2012, three months before FY 2012 ends. Why oh why would Nutting use CBO estimates for FY 2012 and 2013 in May of 2012?

Could it be that no final spending numbers exist for FY 2012 and 2013 because, oh, I don't know, those fiscal years aren't complete or haven't even started yet????

P.S. Nutting DOESN'T use CBO projections for Bush's 2009. He uses the actual spending numbers. He doesn't cite the CBO. He cites the final figures at the Office of Management and Budget. So another right wing fail of a lie.

Point number four: do not use Obama's budget, use the CBO baseline. What Nutting is measuring is actual and projected spending as best he can. Is Obama's budget above projected spending? Very well, so noted. And so what? Is the House going to pass Obama's budget as is? No. So while the rightwingers finally have a fair point (Obama's asking for more spending than the CBO projection based on current law), they drown it in all the other bullshit and ignore that the Obama proposed budget has no real-world effect on spending other than being a negotiating stance.

Finally, the last chart - "Never show actual spending." What I see is Clinton maintaining spending, Bush overseeing a steady rise with a massive jump right at the end. That jump peaks right at the beginning of Obama. And then Obama shows a steady drop in spending. It amazes me that the rightwingers actually showed this. It shows Bush blowing the budget out of the water and Obama steadily reining spending back down. THAT'S NUTTING'S FUCKING POINT. Way to make our point for us!

Clearly the RWNJ knows his audience. He knows he can just post crap that kneecaps his own argument and his readers will gobble it down without debate. He told them, after all, that it shows OBAMA BAD. All this really does is highlight how the Tea Party doesn't think critically at all. They love it when they are spoonfed lies and deceit as typified by this graphic.

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So you are saying Obama is a big fat liar and I should vote for Rmoney? Trajan May 2012 #1
Amen. Skidmore May 2012 #3
At least Obama economics is close to what is the truth..... MindMover May 2012 #5
not saying that at all, Romney is a horrid, horrid candidate, just posting a contrarian piece that stockholmer May 2012 #8
Might help to provide your own commentary to it, then Scootaloo May 2012 #11
will do stockholmer May 2012 #14
The rest of the graph Daily Crapper LEFT OUT... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #36
Despite Being Warned, Right-Wing Media Buy Into The "BS" Claims About Obama's Spending Record SunsetDreams May 2012 #45
That would be the graph being rebutted. Igel May 2012 #46
Why on earth are you citing The Daily Caller The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #2
Daily Caller was just reposting an Associated Press-written article, which was sent to be by someone stockholmer May 2012 #12
So, what are your rebuttals to this posted right-wing smear? blue neen May 2012 #13
here is the first thing I sent them stockholmer May 2012 #16
That was not exactly a glowing endorsement of President Obama. blue neen May 2012 #24
Obama doesn't deserve a glowing endorsement Hawkowl May 2012 #26
This thread doesn't deserve the recommendation you've given it. blue neen May 2012 #27
So your right wing buddy sent you that story Son of Gob May 2012 #15
No, not just 'reposting AP' - you posted the RW graphic they had a link to muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #21
Additionally, mediamatters.org has a lot to say about AP's "reporting" emulatorloo May 2012 #43
As you noticed treestar May 2012 #50
"The Daily Caller CJCRANE May 2012 #4
Thanks for the Right wing spew OKNancy May 2012 #6
What's next? A post about Weapons of Mass Destruction? blue neen May 2012 #7
Hopefully you'll be joining your buddy Better Believe It soon. Son of Gob May 2012 #9
Congratulations, Sir, On Pimping Far Right Anti-Obama Swill The Magistrate May 2012 #10
How do you get 12% increase? kentuck May 2012 #17
What they were looking at was increase over CBO projections bhikkhu May 2012 #30
This lie is WAY too complex to work in their favor. 6000eliot May 2012 #18
lol, I tend to agree, most the US right-wing voters are bright but not shining stockholmer May 2012 #19
The increase in government spending has little to do with the debt or the deficit... kentuck May 2012 #20
"to stimulate debate and counter rebuttals". Sure... SidDithers May 2012 #22
vaht? vas you saying shumthing.. about this trollish OP.. to meee? dionysus May 2012 #39
I'm glad you ran this creeksneakers2 May 2012 #23
AP writers are all right wing hacks and they all twist and INdemo May 2012 #25
After reading that, I'd still like to see what the actual spending increases are bhikkhu May 2012 #28
It appears that AP is dead wrong on this one Motown_Johnny May 2012 #29
Am I on the wrong web site? Doctor_J May 2012 #31
Unrec. More RW BS. n/t FSogol May 2012 #32
no, no, this is just a debate and counter debate...blah...blah..blah..bullshit! Demonaut May 2012 #34
Even the links to so-called main stream news outlets don't lend this shit any credence Blaukraut May 2012 #33
You posted this to suppress Democrats from voting. Swede May 2012 #35
someone has to pick up the slack for BBI, shameless as it is... dionysus May 2012 #38
using Tucker Carlson's site to campaign against dems should get you tombstoned. dionysus May 2012 #37
Take your phony disclamer and right-wing sources and stick them both. Ikonoklast May 2012 #40
Now I see GW Bush was the greatest president ever. JohnnyRingo May 2012 #41
Wingnut graphic + Fucker Carlson's propaganda site. emulatorloo May 2012 #42
Heh. Robb May 2012 #44
Rec'd in response to a Meta complaint. n/t Catherina May 2012 #47
Let me understand this. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #49
are you surprised? dionysus May 2012 #51
"Avoid asking who passed the stimulus?" Except that Nutting Bolo Boffin May 2012 #48
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