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143. IMO, yes AND no. MSNBC IMO is like an eclectic music radio station

Mon May 28, 2012, 03:54 PM

May 2012

It has had for some time now Rock (Rachel Maddow), Oldies (Chris Mathews), and Country (Ed Shultz). But in recent years it has added Classical (Chris Hayes), R&B (Al Sharpton), and Hip-Hop (Alex Wagner).

Now MSNBC has added MHP, a show quite different from all the others.

For some who resist change and want everything homogenized to their particular taste, MHP may sound discordant. But IMO MHP just has a style different from what many MSNBC viewers have become accustomed to. Intellectual Black Feminism is something millions of Caucasians NEVER have encountered before. IMO if they are truly eclectic, they'll eventually come to accept it. Or they can just turn it off.

Who was it who said, "whenever people say RACE has nothing to do with it, race ALWAYS has something to do with it?" IMO, not liking MHP's style doesn't necessarily make you a racist. But it SHOULD make you ask yourself WHY you don't like MHP.

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Melissa Haris Perry's INTENTIONS may be good. Her delivery is like nails scraping down a blackboard. [View all] Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 OP

Is there a reason why you are limiting DURHAM D May 2012 #1

No, I'm just looking at one female host and assuming she could be replaced with another. Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #2

I'm a woman PatSeg May 2012 #33

Are you fucking kidding me? RetroLounge May 2012 #102

I agree with you. Her television show needs a performance coach desparately. EFerrari May 2012 #3

Yeah, Melissa uses professorial arguments--too lengthy, Surya Gayatri May 2012 #32

Professorial arguments without the benefit of peer review. nt EFerrari May 2012 #45

Really? Shankapotomus May 2012 #81

Love MHP's intellect, but she could learn a thing Surya Gayatri May 2012 #86

Even as a visiting commentarian, I find her annoying. Lionessa May 2012 #4

She's annoying because she's not more interested in her audience and in her topic EFerrari May 2012 #7

I like her show, but I can see your complaint. bluedigger May 2012 #5

And remember what comes after... ellisonz May 2012 #10

I also find her abrasive and annoying. MoonRiver May 2012 #6

Just use the remote Mponti May 2012 #8

I love her show goclark May 2012 #36

She's got that tenured mindset BeyondGeography May 2012 #9

I like her show. Swede May 2012 #11

I do too TuxedoKat May 2012 #96

I really want to like her XanaDUer May 2012 #12

My feelings too... I really want to like her show. But I find her show difficult to watch. hlthe2b May 2012 #17

That's where I'm coming from Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #23

Chris Hayes acted like Are_grits_groceries May 2012 #13

Yes, Chris is smart as a whip XanaDUer May 2012 #21

Living in New Haven, I've noticed that Ivy Leaguers all seem to be rapid talkers. CTyankee May 2012 #35

Chris sometimes reminds me of the guy in this ad ashling May 2012 #55

Bwaahaaaa! Spot on!! Surya Gayatri May 2012 #88

And he was wired at 10 on a 10 scale this morning, too... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #24

You know, Amerigo, I think his brain gets ahead of his tongue... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #27

You may be right Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #28

+1! Agree completely, grits... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #26

And just to confirm... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #29

I understand completely...I have a musician's ear Surya Gayatri May 2012 #39

If you ever saw her on her earlier days in interviews on issue...particularly her debate with CTyankee May 2012 #37

Know what you mean about the cornrows... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #40

Other than that, I think she looks amazing. Just gorgeous... CTyankee May 2012 #70

Very pretty woman--beautiful eyes... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #90

The image makeover PatSeg May 2012 #116

+1! uponit7771 May 2012 #34

I don't knew how truly a progressive voice she is EFerrari May 2012 #60

No drama aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #14

An academician, not an actor... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #41

I think we are already over entertained Shankapotomus May 2012 #82

+1. My only complaint is that I was hoping that MHP would cover world affairs more. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #130

You're right Shankapotomus May 2012 #134

Ditto! I'm a huge Fareed Zakaria fan, and I wish he'd make the switch to MSNBC, but I.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #139

I can't get past the braids. Peregrine Took May 2012 #15

I can't get interested in her show and I think it is her delivery. Tennessee Gal May 2012 #16

Rachel is even more animated. Gosh, I wonder what you think of her... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #18

Gosh, could you BE more condescending? Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #25

It's very confusing why some members... tallahasseedem May 2012 #74

You came here to flamebait and now you act like a victim? Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #79

There is nothing remotely flaming baiting in the OP and neither is the poster obligated EFerrari May 2012 #87

yes!!! Let's be happy they support Democrats in every way goclark May 2012 #101

We just hope Melissa ups her game Surya Gayatri May 2012 #118

Thanks for your positive thoughts goclark May 2012 #127

It drives me up the wall, too, goclark... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #133

You're welcome! I am a black woman too, and was taken aback by some Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #137

I like her WolverineDG May 2012 #19

I wouldn't know Cali_Democrat May 2012 #20

Same reaction here, Amerigo. I think it's Surya Gayatri May 2012 #22

Rachel has improved greatly Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #30

I think the "little too pleased with her own performance" PatSeg May 2012 #38

As I said elsewhere in the thread--she's a bit like an Surya Gayatri May 2012 #44

Yes, I've referred to her as a cheerleader in the past PatSeg May 2012 #46

Cf with her participation on this tribute panel for Manning Marable. EFerrari May 2012 #51

Exactly PatSeg May 2012 #58

I find booknotes a bit reserved, which I like but which may not "sell" on msnbc. CTyankee May 2012 #61

While she is clearly very talented, I don't find her morphing into a talking head EFerrari May 2012 #65

She just may be nervous because she might have gotten feedback that she was too CTyankee May 2012 #68

You're probably right. I can't watch her EFerrari May 2012 #69

Thanks for bringing this video to the discussion, Ferrari... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #85

She needs to breathe. I'm out of practice and didn't notice. EFerrari May 2012 #91

Call in the "King's Speech" voice therapist, asap... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #93

well, she IS an academic, not basically a performer. CTyankee May 2012 #117

She's had to lecture, present and lead discussions. She has skills that cross over. EFerrari May 2012 #125

Is it possible that you're older than MHP's usual demo? She's a college professor. She is.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #131

Yes, I am older PatSeg May 2012 #136

MHP, Chris, & Rachael all talk way too hyper fast. I'm more Charlie Rose speed. northoftheborder May 2012 #31

That is what I like about the weekend morning shows PatSeg May 2012 #48

+1 So true about Rachel, PatSeg... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #50

Chris Matthews PatSeg May 2012 #54

It drives me crazy how Chris... tallahasseedem May 2012 #75

I know PatSeg May 2012 #78

His verbal fellating of Halperin is even more cringe-making... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #83

In Matthew's book, PatSeg May 2012 #107

Word! "Greatest"...he's certainly devalued that currency! Surya Gayatri May 2012 #119

On a rare occasion PatSeg May 2012 #122

And that's exactly why you see the same old Surya Gayatri May 2012 #129

Yes, he does have his moments PatSeg May 2012 #132

He's out of control like a loud-mouth, Surya Gayatri May 2012 #135

There a few people PatSeg May 2012 #138

Once a dick, always a dick! LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2012 #144

That's for sure! PatSeg May 2012 #147

I think it is the result of great intelligence and a trained mind. CTyankee May 2012 #140

Her mind is like a mouse trap wrapped in velvet. Surya Gayatri May 2012 #145

We have to remember she teaches at Princeton. The Ivies are a pretty CTyankee May 2012 #146

Has Rachel ever taught at Princeton? Surya Gayatri May 2012 #150

sorry, I was talking about Harris Perry. Rachel is at that level, having gone to CTyankee May 2012 #151

the issue for me is the 'cute' factor. ellenfl May 2012 #42

Yep. It's like an apology for being smart or something. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #47

I think it is PatSeg May 2012 #62

My viewpoint is skewed EFerrari May 2012 #63

And there was a time PatSeg May 2012 #66

Me, too. I wonder if she ever watches her own video. EFerrari May 2012 #67

Yeah, they could all take some inspiration from Surya Gayatri May 2012 #49

I don't think it undermines them Shankapotomus May 2012 #84

Being a woman doesn't consign you to giggling and smirking and squeaking like a little girl EFerrari May 2012 #89

Alex Wagner: "An on our panel today, Steve ""The Kornackster" Kornacki"... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #104

I stopped watching her also - but for other reasons. jillan May 2012 #43

I guess that attitude PatSeg May 2012 #64

That's what I'm saying Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #99

Yes, that's the teaser I saw this weekend PatSeg May 2012 #103

Elaborate please. PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #76

I think MHP is trying to be what someone else thinks she should be...? kentuck May 2012 #52

She has a lisp tralala May 2012 #53

Tom Brokaw had and still has a distinct "baby talk 'r'" like Barbara Walters yet he is still CTyankee May 2012 #72

Way to pull the gender card for no reason tralala May 2012 #77

but only if the shoe fits. If it doesn't, well and good! CTyankee May 2012 #112

I like watching her show. MineralMan May 2012 #56

I LOVE seeing all the smart, talented women, not the same old bloviating men... CTyankee May 2012 #57

My problem with Harris Perry is not her gender, her youth or her femininity. EFerrari May 2012 #59

Thank you, THANK you. Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #98

Well PatSeg May 2012 #109

It's not about people agreeing with me Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #111

Oh, I see PatSeg May 2012 #114

She has an annoying personality on that show. EFerrari May 2012 #124

Uh-Oh... BiggJawn May 2012 #71

Seems to me other "troops" have come trooping in, too! CTyankee May 2012 #73

Sorry, I forgot the first rule of DU... BiggJawn May 2012 #80

A lot of posters on this thread, most DUers Surya Gayatri May 2012 #92

I really need to start using the "sarcasm" smiley more... BiggJawn May 2012 #108

I have never heard of the "Glass Tit." Can you explain to all of us what that is? CTyankee May 2012 #94

Never? BiggJawn May 2012 #106

Thank you and I hope you feel better... CTyankee May 2012 #110

You're welcome, seriously... BiggJawn May 2012 #115

I don't care for her. I find her somewhat irritating or something, for some reason. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #95

Unique & important segment here: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/melissa-harris-perry/47049927/#47049927 proverbialwisdom May 2012 #97

I'm not saying she can't do powerful segments... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #100

I think she's capable to doing four hours of good segments PatSeg May 2012 #105

race have anything to do with it? HipChick May 2012 #113

Sweet FUCKING Jesus, NO...race has nothing to do with it. Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #120

See my post just below, Amerigo. Don't let Surya Gayatri May 2012 #123

No, race is not an issue and neither is gender. Chris Hayes's Surya Gayatri May 2012 #121

IMO, yes AND no. MSNBC IMO is like an eclectic music radio station ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #143

Ya know, I'm not black, but I ask myself the same question... CTyankee May 2012 #148

I think MHP is awesome. Love that show. Hope they keep it just the same. limpyhobbler May 2012 #126

I think MHP is lovely and her delivery charming. AtomicKitten May 2012 #128

I find her intelligent and worth spending some effort to listen to what she has to say. I've retread May 2012 #141

I think it's GREAT so many white DUers dislike MHP. This shows she's doing her job-- ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #142

Funny you should mention her cornrows. I thought her show this weekend was phenomenal, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #153

Who, what, and who cares? boppers May 2012 #149

Professor Harris-Perry is brilliant, and i am able to handle that nofurylike May 2012 #152