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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)conspiracy theory, that "Neo Libs" use social justice (aka "wedge" issues) issues only to manipulate us voters, and that it is all phony. (Much as we say Republicans do not want to end abortion and do stoke racism to keep their base happy).
They believe the only thing these politicians want is to serve Wall Street and make money for themselves, and that they are basically exactly the same- from a economic point of view- as the Republicans, sell outs to corporate America. It kind of blows my mind that they see no differences, but generally they do not. These people are usually middle class, white, and more often men- whose first priority is their own pocketbook, but they do not control the Dem party, as they would like to. You do the math.
This leads them to have distain for people who are interested in social justice- aka "SJWs" because they think they are being "used" by... pretty much ALL the politicians except for Bernie and Elizabeth, they have "Stockholm Syndrome" and identify with the wealthy oligarchs or some such nonsense.
Sanders thinks voters are too much about wedge issues on both sides, and I agree with him to a certain extent. And Bernie has said "he doesn't do wedge issues" and Warren was a Republican during the Reagan revolution and AIDs crises, which makes it easier to understand why some of us worry we are not a priority. Sanders doesn't get a lot about what has been going on- he has been pressured to get up to speed just recently. One has to wonder if that is because he has always courted cross over voters- those that are turned off by SJ issues. He has admitted as much when it comes to abortion- talking of "setting it aside".
The thing is women and POC make up the majority of Dems, so the "wedge" issues are really central to being a Dem, but that is frustrating to those people who already have their social justice (not us) and want Sanders. They are trying not to come off as insensitive... but strategically, they feel like we are in the way of progress for them, specifically financial gains against corporations. It;s hard for them not to be condescending- and often they are not well versed in social issues and the progress made too.
It's funny that their whole argument is we are manipulated by people who care only about money, but their whole rabid interest is about money too. Manny here have argued we just have to wait till after their great "revolution" reaps us benefits, and then after we will gain the social benefits. Because every one earning more is somehow going to make the world fairer. That part makes me laugh. LOL.