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Igel

(37,516 posts)
16. There are 7 billion of us and counting.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:40 AM
Nov 2015

When you say "their lives matter less" you'd better say "to whom," because that's part of the phrase's meaning.

To you? To me? To somebody?

That nameless kid who died of hunger in the Sub-Saharan 23 seconds ago, did his life matter less than Laquan MacDonald's? If not, when are the protests scheduled for that kid's death--or the deaths of those who died since I started writing this? Unless we want to say he mattered less, I expect the same level of outrage over his death, and the deaths of the many hundreds of others who'll die today because of some injustice or inequality.

Or does that mean that the BLM protesters are mean-spirited and insensitive oafs, only looking out for some people because while the nameless kid is almost certainly black, he (or she) wasn't part of their group and that kid's death from starvation or disease has no bearing on the awesome, great BLM protesters' lives, deciding who's worthy of having their names said and who's not?

Or perhaps we can stop being Judge of mankind and come down off the cross we personally nailed ourselves onto.

That's the problem with primates. We're all part of some group. We value other groups less. We value those that we don't know less. We value those that we don't know about less. We value those whose suffering is unrelated to our own less. If Laquan MacDonald died of dysentery that he could have been treated but who refused treatment and not at the hands of a white cop, protesters wouldn't give a damn about his life because that wouldn't imply any threat for the protesters, wouldn't be a member of their group and reflect injustice across group lines, wouldn't have any bearing on their lives nor would it get their group any power or attention. Hell, if he'd been killed by somebody viewed as in his peer group he'd be mourned and buried by a small group of friends and family and otherwise unnoticed except on section B, page 3 of the Tribune.

The Paris attacks were done by outsiders to Parisian society and are relevant to the US. Many perceive greater cultural connections to Paris, even if it's because we saw "Les Mis" or read Balzac or know about Descartes or Robespierre. Many have been to Paris or want to. The war went to Paris. As with Boko Haram, the Tunisian attacks are local and involve local politics; they affect outside groups only to the extent the outside groups visit Tunisia, in effect going to the war. They are a local matter and will be dealt with locally; that may mean helping provide some intelligence, but no more. They matter more than an attack in, say, Libya, because Tunis is billed as an Arab-Spring success and we can't blame somebody else that's evil incarnate for it quite so easily.

Unless you're ready to give equal time to everybody, there's no point trying to browbeat others by accusing them of being unjust and unfair in how they choose to divide their own attention. However, there's a warning there: If everybody gets equal time, then that means everybody gets perhaps a couple of minutes' attention at the very most and no more before we move on to the next victim, with no time to go back.

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I just hear morning joe demean our President last half hour. I just turned it off. riversedge Nov 2015 #1
IOW, people here are bad people because they react like normal people BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #2
oh now I get it. If I don't know people of a particular ethnicity... ellenrr Nov 2015 #3
What's it like BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #4
pretty nice, esp. compared to the shit you wallow in ellenrr Nov 2015 #6
Lol...good answer! BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #8
Why is it you equate 'value' to media time? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #9
Wow, you certainly woke up in a cheery Tipperary Nov 2015 #11
awesomenest answer ever. you win the internet FOREVER !! Hiraeth Nov 2015 #15
There are 7 billion of us and counting. Igel Nov 2015 #16
I don't put much stock in the normal people argument el_bryanto Nov 2015 #12
And I don't get excited when Turkish soccer fans boo the Marseillaise BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #13
So in what sense are you Beyond Geography? el_bryanto Nov 2015 #18
In this sense...a helluva book BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #19
Oh, hey! I've read that book maxsolomon Nov 2015 #30
How many making a statement about Paris are of French descent or have spent any time there? cui bono Nov 2015 #31
Actually, AP did have an article on this nitpicker Nov 2015 #5
Oh please malaise Nov 2015 #7
Cable news focuses on things that fit the narrative and help them sell the current war. GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #10
Everything always has to be the same or it's somebody's fault. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #14
Well said. eom cwydro Nov 2015 #17
Check out what terrorist group Boko Harem has been doing in Nigeria. Scuba Nov 2015 #20
what newspapers are you reading? maxsolomon Nov 2015 #23
Local coverage of latest Boko Harem is zero, while much smaller Paris attack continues to lead. Scuba Nov 2015 #28
I ended my Seattle Times subscription when they endorsed GWB in 2000. maxsolomon Nov 2015 #29
a moron who would deny that the mass media value white lives over non-white lives is the same ellenrr Nov 2015 #21
But that's not all you said in the OP BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #22
The media have their marching orders and that's to get US to war riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #24
this is an attack on a "government" target maxsolomon Nov 2015 #25
That too. Nt uppityperson Nov 2015 #34
Journalism 101 Matrosov Nov 2015 #26
Yup daredtowork Nov 2015 #27
My LBN thread sank like a rock KamaAina Nov 2015 #32
The comparison between Beirut and Paris is interesting Jim Lane Nov 2015 #33
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