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pampango

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98. Young people are more accepting of gay rights, women's rights, immigrants,

Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:10 AM

Nov 2015

refugees, multiculturalism and diversity.

All that is great and cause for Trump and his fellow right wingers to see what the future holds for their fading brand of hate and fear politics.

The bad news is that young people feel the evilness of RW politics so much that too many are willing to sacrifice basic rights to fight against it.

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40% Of Millenials Say The Government Should Be Able To Step In And Censor Peoples Speech If It Is [View all] liberalnarb Nov 2015 OP

I disagree profoundly with the 40% n/t Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #1

Me too SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #3

+1000. Hortensis Nov 2015 #104

Me too! Snow Leopard Nov 2015 #109

Same here. Initech Nov 2015 #113

Apparently 40% of millennials need to take a civics class. n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #2

Yep! We all better watch our step if that happens brush Nov 2015 #59

+1,000,000! If this is an accurate figure, I despair for that demographic. MADem Nov 2015 #74

They might find it too offensive. n/t Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #77

If they did, it was from Texas text books... Thor_MN Nov 2015 #99

The dumbing down of America is working just like the 1% planned. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #4

Exactly so. Even the "smart ones" are gleefully fucking themselves over. nt villager Nov 2015 #58

'Offense' is subjective. But hate speech should be cracked down upon. Yorktown Nov 2015 #5

No thanks n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #6

Thanks, but no. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #8

I guarantee that if they were permitted, the first prosecutions for "hate speech" in this country Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #12

Exactly. Or a contrived case against Muslims. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #15

Imagine the War on Christmas where we get classified as enemy combatants LittleBlue Nov 2015 #21

As an atheist, just my existence would be considered hate speech. nt. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #23

Or someone in a blue state cracking down on Christian anti-gay rhetoric XemaSab Nov 2015 #108

Civil liberties are always balanced against public safety Yorktown Nov 2015 #13

Ding Ding Ding! JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #17

Your article raises straw men Yorktown Nov 2015 #27

A President Trump would love you FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #28

I already mentioned the comfort zone is large between anarchy and tyranny Yorktown Nov 2015 #38

Actually, no. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #33

That amuses me, especially here at DU Yorktown Nov 2015 #42

DU is a privately owned site SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #44

There is no right to not be offended, and no law prohibiting the taking of offense. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #45

I stated I disagreed with the law on this topic Yorktown Nov 2015 #83

This isn't the public square. This is a club, a private website, a place with owners who have MADem Nov 2015 #75

My comment was not about the owners but the hide alerters and jurors Yorktown Nov 2015 #79

All a HIDE is, is a comment by the community that the remark was rude. MADem Nov 2015 #80

Not always. Some alerts can 'cleverly' point to a post which can only offend out of context Yorktown Nov 2015 #82

Oh sure--a bogus hide from a partisan, I know what you mean. MADem Nov 2015 #84

'Zactly Yorktown Nov 2015 #86

When the government can say you can't say something because it is offensive, Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #76

Again, it has to be a balance: civil liberties vs public safety Yorktown Nov 2015 #93

It's sophistry to think there must be a balance. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #94

Uh, no, they aren't, not in the context of free expression of ideas that someone else may not like. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #95

A terribly inappropriate analogy. Words and ideas do not become dangerous until Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #105

Fuck that shit. n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #20

And Christians? Oneironaut Nov 2015 #25

I started off saying offensive speech is OK Yorktown Nov 2015 #31

I did target a group. That's the point. :) Oneironaut Nov 2015 #34

No, your sentence is OK based on the grid I submitted Yorktown Nov 2015 #43

it's hard to prove someone incited violence if they didn't actually incite violence onenote Nov 2015 #73

Reasonable cause Yorktown Nov 2015 #78

Deferred incitement.. isn't a thing. X_Digger Nov 2015 #48

Well, hate speech laws exist in Europe, so they apparently managed to define it Yorktown Nov 2015 #51

Except hate speech laws in europe aren't about 'deferred incitement' so try again. That's.. novel. X_Digger Nov 2015 #54

I wrote that 'hate speech' was 'deferred incitement', and I stand by it Yorktown Nov 2015 #63

Bullshit SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #65

My elephants are blue, therefore potato. Feel free to propose your own definition. X_Digger Nov 2015 #66

Your caricature omits middle ground Yorktown Nov 2015 #81

You haven't defined that mushy middle. You've proposed something that's illogical. X_Digger Nov 2015 #100

Yay for Europe SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #55

What's wrong with constitutional amendments? Yorktown Nov 2015 #62

If they're in place to protect freedoms, I'm all for them SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #64

So, like the Czech Republic? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #35

Again, the distinction ideology/people Yorktown Nov 2015 #49

Hate crimes are defined first as crimes. joshcryer Nov 2015 #89

Hate speech is totally subjective. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #91

The definition of "hate speech" is subjective and will change dependng on the listener. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #103

Sure, let's turn over control of what we can say to the government FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #7

the time machine DustyJoe Nov 2015 #47

Yep this is whats called autocracy liberalnarb Nov 2015 #60

Here a report by UK Channel 4 two days ago Yorktown Nov 2015 #53

"But... but.... there's a 'hate speech exception' to the First Amendment!" Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #9

And it's questionable. Yorktown Nov 2015 #14

Oh, they're all over this thread, already. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #96

The establishment thus figures out what candy they can use to lure the new generation... AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #10

Did they break it down at all? HuckleB Nov 2015 #11

Unfortunately no liberalnarb Nov 2015 #16

Indeed. -eom- HuckleB Nov 2015 #19

Most millennials are apolitical. joshcryer Nov 2015 #90

Taking offense is such bullshit. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #18

Ugh. Sorry but there's no other word for this. Sheltered snowflakes nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #22

<-- Millenial. This is stupid. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #24

In my opinion liberalnarb Nov 2015 #26

Truth right here! FrodosPet Nov 2015 #36

I am not going to say I am surprised by this in the least nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #29

Yep, infringement of free speech. Waldorf Nov 2015 #30

So, a minority of them. n/t Scootaloo Nov 2015 #32

Good thing we allow them to speak! I am sure they are thankful. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #57

If 40% of a large population said that blacks and women shouldn't be able to vote... TipTok Nov 2015 #110

Fuck. That. Shit. hatrack Nov 2015 #37

I really hate everything about their stupid generation Reter Nov 2015 #39

That statement makes you absolutely no different from them. phleshdef Nov 2015 #40

Wow... liberalnarb Nov 2015 #41

What about free speech? mountain grammy Nov 2015 #56

Please elaborate. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #114

Part of the reason Trump is getting traction. redstateblues Nov 2015 #46

Thats true liberalnarb Nov 2015 #50

Ohh where did we go wrong. Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #52

Before its too late everyone must remember too... liberalnarb Nov 2015 #61

depends of course where the speech is--commencements aren't the city square MisterP Nov 2015 #67

Hate speech is not "offensive", it is incitement and is illegal in those countries like Germany Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #68

Fuck that. Throd Nov 2015 #70

So is history.....and who wants to fuck that? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #71

Why do you assume the Ministry of Offense will support your positions? Throd Nov 2015 #72

You seriously think that the lesson of history is that taking away freedom of speech is a good idea? Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #92

Because America has the 1st Amendment, fred. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #97

40% of millenials are ignorant dumbasses? Sounds about right. Throd Nov 2015 #69

Did they take this poll at Safe Space University? romanic Nov 2015 #85

So the minority of Millenials say that huh? Rex Nov 2015 #87

Hmm, seems corporate fascism is really gaining ground. joshcryer Nov 2015 #88

Young people are more accepting of gay rights, women's rights, immigrants, pampango Nov 2015 #98

A very dangerous path! Who are the deciders and the enforcers? Those thinking RKP5637 Nov 2015 #101

Yo, kids! Take a civics 101 class. leftofcool Nov 2015 #102

Civics is too triggering! romanic Nov 2015 #106

they don't like moving out of their parents house either... ileus Nov 2015 #107

They grew up on the internet The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #111

For context, here are the figures for some other countries (whole population) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #112