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BKH70041

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101. Not really.

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:53 PM

Nov 2015

People lie about all sorts of things that would make the average person slap their forehead and wonder what they were thinking. So, is it possible that it could happen? Sure it is. There's no way to claim that it's impossible. So given that it's possible, then to say that the PoC making the accusation is to be believed without question isn't realistic.

See, I can't buy into that narrative. If I say something that's not racist, but a PoC claims they took it that way, and I go through the appropriate motions of trying to determine why they have made that accusation regarding what I said, and upon their explanation I realize they're making up shit, I'm going to call them out on it. I don't know what reasonable person wouldn't. I'm certainly not going to have someone claiming I'm doing something that I know damn well I'm not and just sit back and take it. That's not how the real world works.

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Ten Ways (not all!) White Liberals Perpetuate Racism [View all] bravenak Nov 2015 OP

This one is an opinion piece: bravenak Nov 2015 #1

Damn this is good ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #2

Perfect. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

Please do. I'll rec it every time. Nt F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #5

I got it bookmarked ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #6

I wish people here had taken just one damn class in sociology. bravenak Nov 2015 #10

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Wonderful!! bravenak Nov 2015 #18

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I get this all the time, I'll quote you. bravenak Nov 2015 #21

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He's mad because we didn't invite him to the get together JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #24

I know!! bravenak Nov 2015 #25

Wow that's disgusting strategery blunder Nov 2015 #26

I think that one was pretending to be a Liberal. bravenak Nov 2015 #28

I admit, at first I thought it was parody strategery blunder Nov 2015 #29

Oh dang! Go to sleep! bravenak Nov 2015 #31

the posts were removed because the person was banned mopinko Nov 2015 #91

I figured as such. strategery blunder Nov 2015 #100

Jaysus H Keyrist! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #83

It must have been conservative cave. bravenak Nov 2015 #88

HA! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #94

I'm actually undercover there right now!! Like Trumad! bravenak Nov 2015 #96

Wow.. BS poster.. and they're wondering why their campaigning in bernie's name Cha Dec 2015 #170

I forgot about him. Yes. Ewww! bravenak Dec 2015 #173

People, please do take 3 or 4 minutes to go and read the linked article. Mister Ed Nov 2015 #59

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A terrific quote from a terrific article. femmedem Nov 2015 #50

"Look at all the work I've done on behalf of people of color! I'm one of the good ones!" - too true! scarletwoman Nov 2015 #77

LOL @ "I'm one of the good ones!" There's some history there! MADem Dec 2015 #176

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #4

K&R! betsuni Nov 2015 #7

Another comment... F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #8

Ohhh snap!! I got them once too with my Boss, Jim Bookie. bravenak Nov 2015 #9

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What does this have to do with Sanders? bravenak Nov 2015 #12

"Manspreader"? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #13

That sounds nasty JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #30

Remember the NY subways? That thing where guys take up two seats. bravenak Nov 2015 #32

Oh. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #70

You are not in GDP, where discussions of primary candidates pnwmom Nov 2015 #35

Really. WTF does racism have to do with BS? Can't we have a break from him? Please? Cha Dec 2015 #172

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Hmm bravenak Nov 2015 #19

When you hear an alleged "liberal" use the term "race baiting" or "race nagging", you know exactly.. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #38

You are so right. bravenak Nov 2015 #40

Girl... as usual, you AIN'T LYING Number23 Nov 2015 #74

You're looking for "racism" in all the wrong places. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #22

I seriously didn't see one word in the article about Senator Sanders JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #27

You're looking for discussions about primary candidates in all the wrong places. pnwmom Nov 2015 #33

The author could have had Donald Trump in mind, why did your mind go directly to BS? Hhhmmm..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #39

Where does this come from? brer cat Nov 2015 #46

Oh, FFS. Squinch Nov 2015 #53

GMAFB tammywammy Nov 2015 #72

Okay I read the whole article Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #34

You have it wrong. bravenak Nov 2015 #42

I get not making it about feelings Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #45

I think the point brer cat Nov 2015 #51

I agree Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #56

I think we all agree that not all white people brer cat Nov 2015 #58

But there's a major problem there. BKH70041 Nov 2015 #68

Bringing lying into this brer cat Nov 2015 #80

Not really. BKH70041 Nov 2015 #101

Here is the problem with your approach. kwassa Nov 2015 #109

Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I'm right. BKH70041 Nov 2015 #125

You didn't understand my post. kwassa Nov 2015 #145

Sure all types of people can lie. brer cat Nov 2015 #110

Here's my point. BKH70041 Nov 2015 #126

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Not only that Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #95

Has that happenned to you much? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #128

Perfect ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #127

AFAICT, The best response is to STFU, listen, and agree by repeating every word exactly. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #81

Somehow, I am not surprised that you don't ever hear anyone say that. Squinch Nov 2015 #84

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #151

Should, but won't. Squinch Nov 2015 #156

That was the third post in as many days of DUers ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #157

"But I don't even see color." Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #36

I hate that one. bravenak Nov 2015 #43

You are the only one perpetuating it here AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #37

Some show up constantly to insult me. bravenak Nov 2015 #41

Results of alert Bryce Butler Nov 2015 #44

LOL I'd love to say I'm surprised by that jury but I'd be lying through my teeth Number23 Nov 2015 #75

Really? ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #149

However much time it took you to type this, you wasted it Number23 Nov 2015 #153

Pffft! ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #154

Someone calls a poster a race baiter, a jury doesn't hide it, I comment "I wish I was surprised by Number23 Nov 2015 #155

Thanks for being kind enough to provide an example. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #49

Op after Op after Op after Op AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #69

I have no idea why you follow me to insult me bravenak Nov 2015 #85

If MLKs words insult you AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #138

Mmmm hmmm bravenak Nov 2015 #140

I was once called to jury duty in Northern California iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2015 #47

You were most likely excused Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #48

I just don't buy that people have never ever heard racial slurs iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2015 #54

That's a good point ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #63

I agree bravenak Nov 2015 #93

They were looking for people who are comfortable lying. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #111

They were looking for people who do not see "You $% $#$%# NI%$&*(" as being racist LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #134

That is a great analysis, bravenak. brer cat Nov 2015 #52

I thought so too. bravenak Nov 2015 #121

A movement that thinks it can dictate to others Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #55

Yep. Marr Nov 2015 #87

These articles always complain about people saying "I don't see color". Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #57

The key problem in this country is white supremacy, and white liberals are not unaffected by it MrScorpio Nov 2015 #60

Hard to even discuss, even with liberals bravenak Nov 2015 #90

Really good information mcar Nov 2015 #61

Blather and self-indulgence. earthside Nov 2015 #62

It's not about "white guilt" ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #66

Shutting down or going blank #3 iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2015 #64

Ah, the daily harangue. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #65

So sad for you. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #67

Terribly so. I do try to muddle through regardless, though. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #71

How did I miss this awesome post? bravenak Nov 2015 #113

It's understandable. Nobody wants to deal with microinvalidations. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #114

I can barely move now. bravenak Nov 2015 #116

many are compelled to view discussions and concerns about race in America as a "daily harangue LanternWaste Nov 2015 #150

Great piece, b! I love the bit about "microinvalidations" which I mentioned in another thread Number23 Nov 2015 #73

"Microinvalidation" = GREAT new word, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #79

It's a word for a human jellyfish. Marr Nov 2015 #92

Not at all. I don't think you understand the concept. kwassa Nov 2015 #103

I both understand it, and think it's silly. Marr Nov 2015 #120

And for... jack_krass Nov 2015 #132

Some are very wrapped up in their righteousness. bravenak Nov 2015 #86

^^^Irony. nt U4ikLefty Nov 2015 #141

I have reason. bravenak Nov 2015 #142

The bullies always think that. U4ikLefty Nov 2015 #143

LOL. One woman, bullying the entire forum? On her own thread? LOL NO. Makes no sense. bravenak Nov 2015 #144

It seems to me the left has replaced debate with the idle manufacture of neologisms as if inventing Monk06 Dec 2015 #164

Thanks for that ever so pithy comment. And for kicking the thread. Number23 Dec 2015 #165

And thank you for microvalidating my succinct criticism of pointless vocabulary inflation/ Monk06 Dec 2015 #166

It's as "succinct" as it was pithy! Number23 Dec 2015 #177

A pithy comment is succinct by definition. Are you attempting to be ironic? If so your irony lacks Monk06 Dec 2015 #178

"Your irony lacks pregnancy" Number23 Dec 2015 #179

As in pregnant pause. Lacking depth and fullness. Is English your second language? Monk06 Dec 2015 #180

The person who wrote, apparently without a trace of irony himself, "your irony lacks pregnancy" is Number23 Dec 2015 #181

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Told you the game was over. Perhaps you should have just listened Number23 Dec 2015 #185

When I see stements like the following, it makes me question the authenticity of the person: jonno99 Nov 2015 #76

"it may simply indicate that their own behavior and attitude is off-putting" jack_krass Nov 2015 #124

I'll admit romanic Nov 2015 #78

I don't trust anybody bravenak Nov 2015 #89

About point #2 aikoaiko Nov 2015 #82

We don't need them to do that. But they feel awful, I und�rstand why some try. bravenak Nov 2015 #99

Thanks for understanding. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #131

LOL, that's my one block too. bravenak Nov 2015 #137

I was glad the author of the piece provided a link to a pdf of "The Racism Root Kit" m-lekktor Nov 2015 #97

Thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #98

Thanks for posting! loyalsister Nov 2015 #104

I agree, thank you. bravenak Nov 2015 #105

thanks for another great thread, brave tishaLA Nov 2015 #106

Thank you bravenak Nov 2015 #107

What all of this racial shit, and a lot LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #108

I loved your post - thought I'd let ya know! Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #112

Cheers! LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #123

Thank you for posting this. icymist Nov 2015 #115

Well, thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #117

Thank you for another thought provoking post gwheezie Nov 2015 #118

Yeah, I had to slip the not all! in there. bravenak Nov 2015 #119

This article, and others like it... jack_krass Nov 2015 #129

How does one ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #130

What "offender"? jack_krass Nov 2015 #135

... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #158

You have been out of the loop? kwassa Nov 2015 #146

... jack_krass Nov 2015 #147

It is not silly to black people. kwassa Nov 2015 #148

If your black, then ok point taken, jack_krass Nov 2015 #152

Why would you have a problem with Kwassa saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #160

He said: jack_krass Nov 2015 #162

I wasn't going to respond, but .... kwassa Dec 2015 #163

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #159

I did number two the other day. LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #133

Not the greatest subject line! (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #136

Point taken! LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #139

But take heart ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #161

"I hear how my words or actions hurt you. Thank you for pointing that out to me." Brilliant! Cha Dec 2015 #167

Love you!!! bravenak Dec 2015 #168

Love you, bravenak!!! Cha Dec 2015 #169

Nice! Sad, though. bravenak Dec 2015 #171

Very.. Cha Dec 2015 #174

It is so on point. Heck, we see the actions on this very thread! bravenak Dec 2015 #175

Love this. Stop making racism "about" white people. Recursion Dec 2015 #182

I know. This needs to be posted over and over. bravenak Dec 2015 #184