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In reply to the discussion: I just can't stop being blood red angry about this. [View all]Divernan
(15,480 posts)35. Some lies are not protected speech. Neither are "embellishments"
Speaking of lies - how about this oldie? Repeated and embellished by HRC for over 12 years. "We landed under sniper fire. There was no greeting ceremony We had to run to our cars. And that is what happened." And in a later embellishment _ "We had to duck sniper fire!"
What I find chilling about watching the video clip of HRC lying about the sniper fire, is the calm, assured and forceful way in which she delivers the lie.
CBS Exposes Hillary Clinton Bosnia Trip.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Hillary+Bosnia&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002
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It was twelve years after the fact when Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton got caught "embellishing" the danger shed faced on a trip to Bosnia. I happened to have accompanied her on the trip and didnt remember being shot at, as Clinton described. The videotape of the actual visit proved Clintons memory wrongnot just once but twice.
After my first report exposed the truth, Clinton doubled down and dug in, providing a second reason to question her memory of events. Clinton never fully explained how she could have made such a mistake as saying she had ducked sniper fire when there hadnt been a sniper in sight. Initially, she stated I was sleep deprived and I misspoke.
But as my report below (Clinton Doubles Down) shows, Clinton told varieties of the embellishment over a long period of time, not just when she was sleep deprived. Had Clinton somehow convinced herself that it had all really happened? Or did she knowingly advance a false story?
https://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-dodging-sniper-fire-in-bosnia-tale/
Excerpt from Stonewalled:
I prefer not to cover political campaigns. Theyre no-win assignments. You follow a candidate around the country: if you expose their flaws, youre viewed as being politically biased against them and it jeopardizes your access. If they have a good day and you report it as such, you risk critics accusing you of being their cheerleader. And if your observations from the front lines arent in synch with what the news managers back in New York see on cable news or read on the wire services or hear on the competition, you may find yourself eternally second-guessing and getting second-guessed. Nonetheless, a campaign story occasionally falls into my lap and draws me into the fray. That happened in 2008 when I returned from a trip overseas to be greeted with a strange question from my husband.
When you went to Bosnia with Hillary Clinton in 1996, were you guys shot at? he asks.
No, I reply. Why?
Are you sure? he presses.
Of course. Id know if wed been shot at, I say.
It seems that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has been publicly saying that we took sniper fire on that trip to Bosnia twelve years before when she was first lady. Some observers theorize that Clinton is saying this now because she believes that getting shot at in a war zone would help voters view her as being qualified to serve as commander in chief. More so than a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama with no such experience.
She must be speaking of a different trip, I postulate.
Nothing else makes sense. I do a little research and discover Clinton is referring to the trip on which I accompanied her. Shes claiming that, as our military plane landed in Bosnia, we took sniper fire. She even says she had to duck and run for cover to escape the flying bullets.
The idea is ludicrous. Yes, we flew into a recent war zone and were told it could be dangerous. We were prepared for the possibility of hostile fire. But it never materialized. And the fact is, had hostile forces fired upon our aircraft, our military pilot wouldnt have just flown right into them and landed. Especially considering that accompanying us on the trip were the presidents daughter, Chelsea, and two entertainers who came along to perform for the troops: comedian Sinbad, and singer Sheryl Crow. If there had been any threat of our plane being shot at, we simply wouldve flown to an alternate, safe destination.
I rarely hang on to story materials for very long, but in this case, I go to my office in Washington, dig through some boxes of records, and discover I still have notes, photographs, and videotape from that trip in 1996. The video clearly disproves candidate Clintons story. It shows Clinton and Chelsea disembarking from the plane on the tar- mac in Bosnia, leisurely smiling for photographs and greeting a local schoolgirl on the runway. No sniper fire. No ducking and running.
https://sharylattkisson.com/stonewalled-book/
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You would of thought Hitler would have taught us about unchecked propaganda . n/t
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2015
#24
Actually Hitler, and Joseph Goebbels taught these right wingers how to do it well.
PatrickforO
Nov 2015
#152
Thanks, some use it, some abuse it, and villains Hide behind it, like the 2nd .
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2015
#23
Sure, free speech is protected, but lies should be called out as lies..
mountain grammy
Nov 2015
#34
When I see posts like this, it indicates the need for someone to detach, losing their myopic view.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2015
#51
I appreciate the mansplaining about HRC in this thread about women's rights. nt
msanthrope
Nov 2015
#56
Congratulations, Even the Benghazi commitee didn't think to bring this up
Progressive dog
Nov 2015
#100
SO we are going to seperate her out from all the other politicians that exaggerate?
Rex
Nov 2015
#111
Thank you. This confirms everything I'll ever need to know about you.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2015
#90
You might have a point if you were responding to demands for censorship. n/t
Martin Eden
Nov 2015
#120
And now you see how the manipulation works to get us all angry with each other.
CJCRANE
Nov 2015
#15
A concealed man throws rocks at two different groups. They accuse and fight each other.
CJCRANE
Nov 2015
#27
Sweetheart, if you want to go pray with the guy in jail, you're free to do so.
Le Taz Hot
Nov 2015
#33
I am with you all the way, but while we are justly outraged about specific events, we
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#86
And instead of "animosity" over people taking over their bodies, women should do what, exactly? (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2015
#65
The PP video was an example of stochastic terrorism designed to rile up christians conservatives
CJCRANE
Nov 2015
#69
Ronnie Ray-gun freed them of culpability years ago, instead of protecting validity, we invented
orpupilofnature57
Nov 2015
#19
I want PP & politicians to make stronger statements, something the mouth-breathers might understand.
randome
Nov 2015
#21
As I watched this unfold, the same thoughts kept going through my head..
mountain grammy
Nov 2015
#37
Even as a man I have used Planned Parenthood services and am grateful for their existance
davidpdx
Nov 2015
#52
The headline on Yahoo was "attack on abortion clinic" as if that is all PP does.....
Punkingal
Nov 2015
#61
The rw fundy churches and rw media are the terrorist organizations in this country. When is law
Dont call me Shirley
Nov 2015
#70
I agree. Per Obama's statement, the responsible are not only talking about reasonable gun laws,
seabeyond
Nov 2015
#92
Exactly. None of my business in any situation what a woman is seeking medical care for.
brewens
Nov 2015
#103
The people who made these fraudulent videos may well have blood on their hands
Gothmog
Nov 2015
#124
They are now going to be named in the wrongful death lawsuits, mark my words.
kestrel91316
Nov 2015
#160
When we finally achieve universal single-payer healthcare, free abortions
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2015
#136
Calm legalese does squat when the other side has been carrying verbal blow torches and guns
Gloria
Nov 2015
#150
Long time ago when I was active in pro-choice for our state, early 1970's,
dixiegrrrrl
Nov 2015
#148