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TeddyR

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1. Agreed

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:03 PM

Nov 2015

We need to get guns out of the hands of felons and make sure that those who possess guns illegally are prosecuted and sent to prison. We also need to have stiffer penalties for those who use a gun to commit a crime. The vast majority of shootings are committed by those who already have a criminal record.

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Agreed TeddyR Nov 2015 #1

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I guess I have a couple of thoughts in response TeddyR Nov 2015 #6

It's not a weapon of war. Those would be fully automatic Ak's. The ones that can be purchased in Waldorf Nov 2015 #9

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Yes, it can fire a lot of bullets, just like my semi-automatic .22. But it still is not a weapon of Waldorf Nov 2015 #15

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As almost every firearm ever made Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #37

What rifle was not designed for war? hack89 Nov 2015 #44

Hell, muzzleloaders were designed for war. Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #48

Tell that to victims of mass shootings. Besides, plenty of gunners have converted them, or howabout Hoyt Nov 2015 #30

what disingenuous nonsense TheSarcastinator Nov 2015 #66

Not nonsense at all. The foolish are the ones who think the two (AK semi-auto available in the US vs Waldorf Nov 2015 #67

We need to restrict access to guns, period. Until we figure out a way to identify Hoyt Nov 2015 #3

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I'm fine with a gun or two AT HOME for hunting and home defense (not that I believe it is really Hoyt Nov 2015 #10

Whats the difference between owning 1 or 50? I can still only shoot one at a time. Waldorf Nov 2015 #16

Simple, those 50 guns will be sold, given to others, stolen -- perhaps more importantly, they fuel Hoyt Nov 2015 #19

I don't consider the guns bad, more the people. A gun is just an inanimate object. I strongly Waldorf Nov 2015 #24

Gotta have all those "actions" to be happy, notwithstanding gunz effect on society. Hoyt Nov 2015 #25

Yes, all those different "actions" do make me happy. I enjoy shooting for a hobby. And when Waldorf Nov 2015 #26

Wine is not the same as lethal weapons. Heck, I prefer a wino over a gun loving militia type anyday. Hoyt Nov 2015 #29

Alcohol like wine just kills Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #38

That's no reason to accept yahoos hooked on gunz. You gunners are amazing. Hoyt Nov 2015 #39

I just wish you would be so vocal over alcohol Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #42

Alcohol is a problem. Gunz are a bigger problem -- intimidation, crime, mass shootings, empowering Hoyt Nov 2015 #43

Wine kills many more people than assault weapons. nt hack89 Nov 2015 #46

I support repealing the 2nd amendment instead of working around it 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #5

Unless I live to be 200 years old SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #7

I get what you are saying, but every decade we do nothing, puts 100 million more gunz on the street Hoyt Nov 2015 #12

I don't see this happening for a long long time. They might get enough for Congress but I don't Waldorf Nov 2015 #13

The second amendment was not always interpreted the way it is today etherealtruth Nov 2015 #17

The 2A allows strict gun control. It is not the problem. nt hack89 Nov 2015 #27

That was indeed, my point .... and the point of the article! etherealtruth Nov 2015 #28

But it will be regulated within the context of an individual right hack89 Nov 2015 #41

Maybe, maybe not etherealtruth Nov 2015 #47

The 2A has never been the real issue. It is the lack of broad passionate public support hack89 Nov 2015 #49

There is a sea change coming etherealtruth Nov 2015 #54

As a gun owner I have been hearing that for a very long time. hack89 Nov 2015 #55

I hold out hope for our society .... we can't just sit back and say "there's nothing we can do" n/t etherealtruth Nov 2015 #57

There is a lot we can do hack89 Nov 2015 #61

The 2A does not stop strict gun control hack89 Nov 2015 #20

but the 2A does allow firearms to be sold in the first place 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #22

There is the issue of state constitutions hack89 Nov 2015 #23

When has there never been private ownership Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #35

This is why new gun laws at the national level fail. When people see wanting to repeal the Waldorf Nov 2015 #63

Repealing the second would not remove the right. The bill of rights grants no rights. X_Digger Nov 2015 #31

Gun regulation is a critical policy for me. Nt Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #8

Yes sir Mr. President madokie Nov 2015 #14

Odd juxtaposition here: 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #21

I know, I can't wait to get one of those EOM virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #33

Same for me. I'd like to add one of those to my collection. Waldorf Nov 2015 #64

The basis of this thread is incorrect. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #32

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Not impressed by that video. Actully.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #52

We must immediately make them not weapons of war... krispos42 Nov 2015 #36

Yep that will fix it, lol Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #40

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Solutions grounded in cultural, political and legal reality have a greater chance of becoming law. hack89 Nov 2015 #51

Ok, how do you propose to do that.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #56

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SO? You still got to catch us...And the sheriff is family, virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #60

And there was a General who said that at the time of Sandy jwirr Nov 2015 #50

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I agree totally with that general. jwirr Nov 2015 #62

Yep, which is why the new action will probably be directed a making lists of people HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #53

A 5-4 USSC decision just ProgressiveEconomist Nov 2015 #65