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173. Were you asked to apologize? No. But false witness is a game for the good Christian.

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:34 PM

Nov 2015

Jesus, if I might drag him into it, told his followers to rejoice when persecuted or mocked for his sake. But they do not rejoice, what they do is whine that their reputations are harmed by their own dang faith mates.
Jesus also said to be very slow to take offense and very quick to offer apology.

When Westboro was a new thing, I went to many 'liberal ministers' and urged them to counter their hateful pickets. They would not do so. They would say they did not like their methods but the Scriptures do oppose homosexuality, so they could not really oppose Westboro too strongly. As a result Westboro Baptist conducted hundreds of attacks on LGBT funerals unhindered by 'liberal Christians', they did so for years and in all 50 States.
And that's the problem, letting those hateful teachings and actions gain legitimacy and boldness, it should be YOUR community most outraged at this misuse of your faith. But all you care about is your own reputations. And Jesus advised against that.

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There is a serious anti-Christian vibe around here [View all] oberliner Nov 2015 OP

I lulz'd KG Nov 2015 #1

Same. It's not base religion, but any oppressive, manipulative, hypocritical fundamental sect. TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #69

I am not suggesting any kind of "Christian persecution" oberliner Nov 2015 #153

I am not suggesting any kind of "Christian persecution" AlbertCat Nov 2015 #205

Win!! nt artislife Nov 2015 #294

Persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group oberliner Nov 2015 #326

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Post of the day! LOL randys1 Nov 2015 #328

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How can you not laugh at someone so fixated on being persecuted? Warpy Nov 2015 #195

It's mostly expression of human nature...people need to distance themselves from the murderer HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #2

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Lord love a duck--or two. nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #227

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bingo. . . n/t annabanana Nov 2015 #224

It's a deliberate narrative. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #8

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Ditto Brainstormy Nov 2015 #15

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K&R! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #20

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Well I think it's kind of fucked up to take this tragedy and make it all about poor oppressed PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #65

I certainly do not mean to be doing that oberliner Nov 2015 #91

+10000000 CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #94

Yes. Thank you. nt Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #134

Thanks for calling him out on this. It is amazing that people like the OP are so Rex Nov 2015 #166

Really. Kath1 Nov 2015 #197

Yup. Reformed Evangelical here. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #198

^THIS right here n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2015 #267

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Many here have been hurt by "Christians" Maeve Nov 2015 #17

In essence, some use religion as a club to beat, kill and maim people with physically and/or RKP5637 Nov 2015 #22

Some do. Not all Maeve Nov 2015 #39

Yes, I have no issue with the former, following a peace and giving life. RKP5637 Nov 2015 #47

I refuse to put up with it. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #303

Did you miss all of the Pope threads? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #18

Combining religious delusion with violence CanonRay Nov 2015 #19

There is no Christian equivalent to ISIS...but some here like to pretend that there is. davidn3600 Nov 2015 #21

Oh, bs. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #27

did you notice his list of what Xtians "don't do" is really, really selective?? TheSarcastinator Nov 2015 #32

Lots of Americans TeddyR Nov 2015 #67

So what do you suggest? Calista241 Nov 2015 #105

Speak out about it. Call it the hateful violent rhetoric that it is. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #106

What goes on in the mind Mariana Nov 2015 #171

Exactly. Like I said, it's disgusting. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #178

RWCNJs deal plenty of death, just differently, so that Ilsa Nov 2015 #49

You're giving Christians a free pass. procon Nov 2015 #74

I'm not giving any religion a pass davidn3600 Nov 2015 #92

Thank you +100 840high Nov 2015 #129

Its only a matter of time. procon Nov 2015 #144

How many has radical Islam killed and how 840high Nov 2015 #236

If you're just looking for a global body count the scoreboard tally procon Nov 2015 #252

I'm talking about recent past. So in your 840high Nov 2015 #258

We killed a lot in Iraq. Bush said he did it becasue God told him to. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #264

YEs so i say it is a tie at the moment. Wait, no, W's crusade killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS randys1 Nov 2015 #331

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Watch Jesus Camp and get back to us. wickerwoman Nov 2015 #140

I've just been reading about the Christian Identity Movement & the Phineas Priesthood, among others. Demit Nov 2015 #244

No, there is a serious hatred of anti-choice, Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #24

Islam is also steeped with misogyny and homophobia oberliner Nov 2015 #44

So, "Islam does it too" Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #54

The entire OP is about that very point oberliner Nov 2015 #58

THAT'S the point you are trying to make? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #63

If I may quote my own OP oberliner Nov 2015 #88

Be wary of anti Muslim folks who pretend it is because of the way Muslim's randys1 Nov 2015 #332

My opinion is gwheezie Nov 2015 #76

The facts are in enough rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #78

How do you know how is even Christian? oberliner Nov 2015 #89

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Which religion has more power in the US to push this misogyny and homophobia? Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #271

Indeed. When they start preaching hate, they should expect to be despised. Nay Nov 2015 #53

Excellent post, Taz. hifiguy Nov 2015 #190

+1000 nt NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #256

IMO LiberalElite Nov 2015 #26

more Xtian victimization BS TheSarcastinator Nov 2015 #29

I agree that Christians are not oppressed here oberliner Nov 2015 #46

Yes, my beliefs are mocked here daily. tavernier Nov 2015 #30

oh no! Not your BELIEFS! Those are SACRED! TheSarcastinator Nov 2015 #35

Well, you can say Xtian tavernier Nov 2015 #143

Turn down your persecution generator. No one told you to leave. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #202

I have to wonder how strong a faith is Skittles Nov 2015 #246

I'm not the least bit upset. tavernier Nov 2015 #269

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They NEVER seem to address, let alone deal with, this root problem whatthehey Nov 2015 #314

If I were of faith, I think it would be impossible to defend. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #316

Are your beliefs worthy of mocking? Are they contrary to reason and logic? cleanhippie Nov 2015 #201

+10 840high Nov 2015 #234

Anything that can't be mocked isn't worth believing. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #266

Is it okay that we mock Republican beliefs? Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #272

Hilarious stuff. I get it, you want to make anti choice and anti gay religious rhetoric 'protected' Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #31

That's fine....as long as you attack Islam with the same hammer you attack Christianity with davidn3600 Nov 2015 #38

Read what I wrote, I mean what I say. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #51

Anti-choice and anti-gay religious rhetoric should not be protected oberliner Nov 2015 #48

So your concern if what, exactly? Say what you mean. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #61

Not so much a concern as an observation oberliner Nov 2015 #93

Your said you were "disturbed" most by... and then went on to "observe" something that PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #97

Huh? oberliner Nov 2015 #111

Reread your OP. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #116

Someone else pointed that out upthread oberliner Nov 2015 #150

You placed the reputation of a religious group over the victims of this crime. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #165

That was not my intention oberliner Nov 2015 #174

+1 Rex Nov 2015 #176

I do not want their speech protected. But what I would like jwirr Nov 2015 #137

Were you asked to apologize? No. But false witness is a game for the good Christian. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #173

You went to many liberal ministers to ask then to counter jwirr Nov 2015 #189

It is more effective and realistic to try to change one's own culture bhikkhu Nov 2015 #33

But what about the assumptions made about the shooter oberliner Nov 2015 #50

Waiting to find out what Robert Lewis saltpoint Nov 2015 #57

I didn't read much about it (busy working) bhikkhu Nov 2015 #253

Christianity has survived 2000 years of trials and tribulations. hrmjustin Nov 2015 #34

Agreed oberliner Nov 2015 #52

We're waiting. When will you start? whatthehey Nov 2015 #214

Not exactly sure how to respond here so I will just smile and wave. hrmjustin Nov 2015 #218

Yep - that's all you brave "liberal" Xians ever do against your evil faith-mates whatthehey Nov 2015 #222

First off you don't know a damn thing about me. hrmjustin Nov 2015 #223

I'll take you seriously when you do one fucking thing to "address" your fundy brothers in faith whatthehey Nov 2015 #304

I have done it in real life and on DU. hrmjustin Nov 2015 #306

i expect Christian hatred. I just wish they weren't hypocrites whatthehey Nov 2015 #311

I am well aware of what they are capable of. hrmjustin Nov 2015 #312

At least you know how to make his point crystal clear. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #298

Haven't seen much of you lately. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #291

Thanks my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2015 #296

Your charge is much too broad. procon Nov 2015 #36

Fair enough oberliner Nov 2015 #56

When Christians get their nose B Calm Nov 2015 #41

That is when they became obnoxious, using politics to force their beliefs onto others! Apparently RKP5637 Nov 2015 #55

So long as people divide other people into groups, you will see this. randome Nov 2015 #42

Yes, it's important to understand that humans are, by nature, group-oriented HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #72

Sad but true. randome Nov 2015 #219

It's a big problem for the saltpoint Nov 2015 #45

But Franklin Graham is a Christian. Mariana Nov 2015 #155

That's not the argument. saltpoint Nov 2015 #196

It is the hypocrisy that most object to. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #59

Get your cross out of women's bodies, and I'll stop pointing out it's there. jeff47 Nov 2015 #60

I can see that get the red out Nov 2015 #62

Religion was obviously at the root of the shooter's thinking. Marr Nov 2015 #64

At this point, could there not have been other motives unrelated to religion? oberliner Nov 2015 #86

It's certainly possible, but seems awfully unlikely to me. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #126

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It is not the same when people talk about a majority group the same way others talk about an gollygee Nov 2015 #66

It's a matter of perspective davidn3600 Nov 2015 #73

In our country, Christians are definitely the majority. gollygee Nov 2015 #75

Good point oberliner Nov 2015 #84

No reason to make assumptions? gollygee Nov 2015 #101

One can definitely make educated inferences oberliner Nov 2015 #109

That PP location had safe rooms. It is constantly picketed. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #124

No, I haven't oberliner Nov 2015 #136

So what's true or acceptable depends on popularity and group think. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #307

Perhaps Kalidurga Nov 2015 #71

Just sharing thoughts and reflections oberliner Nov 2015 #79

And there's a serious anti-secular vibe across most of this country . . . hatrack Nov 2015 #77

Very true oberliner Nov 2015 #80

Yes, it's important to focus on the *real* victims here... Christians. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #83

By no means are Christians "the real victims" here oberliner Nov 2015 #85

mmm hmm. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #90

Peace be unto you oberliner Nov 2015 #95

How convenient for you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #320

you are right about us noting the difference restorefreedom Nov 2015 #82

I've noticed it for years. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #87

Hmmm I guess we are all demanding lists of christians and that they wear nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #96

There actually have been such posts oberliner Nov 2015 #102

Are the people doing that anywhere close to runnning for political office nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #110

Point taken oberliner Nov 2015 #113

Wheat, chaff sort of an exercise nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #119

The voices of secularism ought to be heard more loudly oberliner Nov 2015 #122

Why don't you ask the posters if they were meant satirically? Mariana Nov 2015 #157

Good point oberliner Nov 2015 #158

Over the years there have been a number of "false flag" events - someone jonno99 Nov 2015 #98

Of course there is an anti-Christian vibe around here. dawg Nov 2015 #99

I won't mock you - in fact agree 100%. 840high Nov 2015 #238

Interesting post and thread hibbing Nov 2015 #100

Agreed oberliner Nov 2015 #104

Yep, glad it's being noticed. n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #103

I agree with you patsimp Nov 2015 #107

I am an atheist, I am anti all religion! m-lekktor Nov 2015 #108

I can't be bothered enough to care... about religion or atheism truth be told. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #112

this-- I have similar disdain for all religions, including christianity.... mike_c Nov 2015 #133

As a hopeful agnostic Android3.14 Nov 2015 #114

This agnostic agrees Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2015 #115

I am a stone cold atheist and I have noticed it time and again CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #117

I'm an atheist too justiceischeap Nov 2015 #120

Ft Hood was not called terrorism. Wonder why? 840high Nov 2015 #130

It kinda depends on your definition of Christian workinclasszero Nov 2015 #121

Christianity in this country has evolved Mariana Nov 2015 #159

I don't hate Christians. I do think Christianity itself is a harmful, nonsensical belief system. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #125

I have yet to meet any good ones PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #127

You have yet to meet any good Christians? oberliner Nov 2015 #147

to quote Sheriff Noah after someone wrote letter criticising him for being Jewish hobbit709 Nov 2015 #128

There is a serious anti-whatever-your-opinion/belief/ideal is around here. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #131

It's the hypocrisy Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #135

Understood oberliner Nov 2015 #145

Exactly. branford Nov 2015 #297

Then the more moderate Christians need to begin to take back the religion. AngryOldDem Nov 2015 #138

Yes, I agree oberliner Nov 2015 #146

No thank you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2015 #164

Great points oberliner Nov 2015 #168

^^This^^ (nt) mr blur Nov 2015 #170

It's so much easier for moderate Christians Mariana Nov 2015 #162

To compare Islam to Christianity in the USA is a false equivalence. PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #148

Yeah, there is MFrohike Nov 2015 #152

Yes, many here lump all Christians (and all Catholics) together, as they would never pnwmom Nov 2015 #154

OK, I'll bite DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #156

Yes, I have and it is bothersome. Speculation is normal, but you have to be careful to uppityperson Nov 2015 #163

I've noticed folks upset because we won't hate on Islam like Stormfront and FR does. Rex Nov 2015 #169

I agree oberliner Nov 2015 #177

That includes our primary candidates too right? Rex Nov 2015 #179

It has gotten really ugly on that front oberliner Nov 2015 #180

It has hurt this site and the posters here in ways we will only feel after the primaries. Rex Nov 2015 #183

You might be right about that oberliner Nov 2015 #186

I might be guilty of giving out an anti-religion vibe. Vinca Nov 2015 #172

Seeing as how we demand that all muslims explicitly denounce each act of Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #175

And white. I think skin color plays into this too. Rex Nov 2015 #181

But we don't actually demand that - the right-wingers do oberliner Nov 2015 #185

Oh du-ers do. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #211

Good point oberliner Nov 2015 #327

Agreed Oberliner. But the vibe is limited. guillaumeb Nov 2015 #182

In large part because most of those who most loudly and publicly hifiguy Nov 2015 #187

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I loathe all religulous fundamentalists, hifiguy Nov 2015 #191

If I may jump in to this interesting question whatthehey Nov 2015 #309

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I think reasonable, rational people feel the same about all delusional thinking. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #213

Do you think that Christianity and Islam are viewed in the same way here? oberliner Nov 2015 #240

shhhh. The op is having a christian entitlement moment of persecution. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #212

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It goes without saying that Christians and whites have enormous privilege oberliner Nov 2015 #237

Zee Germans? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #262

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Hogwash matt819 Nov 2015 #216

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"Reasonable" Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #259

But what does that have to do with the Planned Parenthood shooting? oberliner Nov 2015 #233

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Yes. Kath1 Nov 2015 #228

+1! 6000eliot Nov 2015 #230

Christians are not put upon oberliner Nov 2015 #232

My post was sarcastic. 6000eliot Nov 2015 #260

Your Abrahmaic religions all suck. Sorry. nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #231

You put it in a nice, neat nutshell. hifiguy Nov 2015 #242

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From the amazon.com blurb about Chris Hedges' book tblue37 Nov 2015 #241

But we don't know if the PP shooter was Christian oberliner Nov 2015 #243

We don't know about Dear, but there have been plenty of clearly extremist Christian tblue37 Nov 2015 #247

That is true oberliner Nov 2015 #248

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I'm anti all religious claptrap at this point.... Gloria Nov 2015 #263

I respect the right of people to hold cockamamie, irrational beliefs, but Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #276

Yes, I get that...it's not that I am not Gloria Nov 2015 #287

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Nope, I haven't noticed that at all. What I have noticed: LadyHawkAZ Nov 2015 #268

Thanks for sharing your thoughts oberliner Nov 2015 #285

No LadyHawkAZ Nov 2015 #289

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Most Christians also aren't "just ordinary people that want to live peaceful and prosperous lives?" branford Nov 2015 #299

I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth. cemaphonic Dec 2015 #341

I'm well aware that Christianity and Islam are religions, branford Dec 2015 #343

It is true, read some posts in the following thread: pediatricmedic Nov 2015 #292

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Dude, cut the shit, you're just pissed off that -- Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2015 #301

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Your perception probably isn't wrong�violent radicals taint groups w/ which they're associated Panich52 Nov 2015 #310

As I Christian myself, I firmly believe you simply simply desire to be offended LanternWaste Nov 2015 #315

I'm not offended oberliner Nov 2015 #325

There has been a serious anti-Christian vibe for the ten years I've been here. kwassa Nov 2015 #317

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #318

Yes, but it's always been this way. n/t DesertRat Nov 2015 #319

I am sick of being persecuted by Christians for my support of womens rights B Calm Nov 2015 #322

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A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. IsItJustMe Nov 2015 #336

More facts have come in since I made the post oberliner Nov 2015 #338

Seemed pretty obvious to me when I heard about it. IsItJustMe Nov 2015 #339