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cleanhippie

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124. Yes, it's stupid and asinine because this OP isn't about that at all.

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:19 PM

Nov 2015

Don't hijack the conversation. If you don't like this one, start another one of your own. Your first response to the OP demonstrates that you didn't read the OP, get the point, or chose to ignore it for your own purposes.

That is all. Have a nice day.

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I am pro-abortion, not just pro-choice: 10 reasons why we must support the procedure and the choice [View all] PeaceNikki Nov 2015 OP

+1000000000000000000000 randys1 Nov 2015 #1

add some 000000's for me, too wordpix Nov 2015 #126

k and r Kali Nov 2015 #2

"Pro-choice" is just fine with me. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #3

You clearly didn't read anything beyond the headline. And even struggled getting through that. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #4

To clarify, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #6

But you added the snotty, "Why not let the woman make her own decision?" question PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #7

Do you think Hillary and Bernie should start calling themselves "pro-abortion" Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #11

I think you should stop being shady. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #12

If "shady" means being pro-choice without calling oneself "pro-abortion", Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #14

Who the fuck were you asking this question to: "Why not let the woman make her own decision?" PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #16

Yeah, that question sums it up, dont it. randys1 Nov 2015 #130

Pro-choice is all inclusive, imho... because, in the end, it IS the woman's choice secondwind Nov 2015 #44

I get that. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #46

I will happily say in public enlightenment Nov 2015 #9

Would you like Hillary and Bernie to refer to themselves as "pro-abortion"? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #81

Deflection. enlightenment Nov 2015 #85

Nobody ever answers that question. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #90

I would *love* if they could/would say they are pro abortion. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #100

You are trying to attribute something to me that I don't and will never have. A Simple Game Nov 2015 #105

ok. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #106

"Nye is the resident contrarian" Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #114

Pro abortion, that sounds awful, doesn't it? Stellar Nov 2015 #101

Becuse it's a stupid, asinine question that it totally irrelevant to the point of the OP. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #115

In the heat of a presidential primary season, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #118

Yes, it's stupid and asinine because this OP isn't about that at all. cleanhippie Nov 2015 #124

Exactly. 7962 Nov 2015 #15

I, for one, do not give two shits about what's "fine" with you. Heidi Nov 2015 #41

Jury results Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #80

Yes, because that's what we're doing, "pressuring" women to get abortions. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #78

The only way a woman has ever had that decision made for her is when she is NOT allowed to have cui bono Nov 2015 #87

You've never heard of a man getting a woman pregnant, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #88

Point taken. However, that does not negate abortion being a positive thing to have available cui bono Nov 2015 #93

There ARE men who force women to have abortions. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #91

That's a horrible experience to have to have gone through. cui bono Nov 2015 #94

Wait- why were you paying him child support??? ncjustice80 Nov 2015 #97

You believe a father should not have custody unless the mother is abusive? missingthebigdog Nov 2015 #102

No. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #133

Wow. I have no words. missingthebigdog Dec 2015 #134

As I said, I was quite ILL for several years. I was in and out of the hospital and ER. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #132

I think all forms of birth control should be LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #5

+++ Ditto. Along with vasectomies and tubal ligations. erronis Nov 2015 #40

+1. I've never understood why vasectomies are not required to be covered under the ACA, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #79

Becuase they are cheaper, and frankly, men don't need the help. n/t ncjustice80 Nov 2015 #98

A vasectomy is much less invasive and complicated than a tubal ligation. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #112

i am pro-abortion also. proudly. mopinko Nov 2015 #8

I agree. enlightenment Nov 2015 #10

Moi aussi malthaussen Nov 2015 #13

Abortion benefits the public good. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #17

K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #18

Your post emphasizes something important ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #19

People who call themselves supporters of abortion rights fall into this trap, too. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #20

My former SIL was "casual" TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #23

Losing her first child to adoption may have been part of the reason for her mental health problems. StevieM Nov 2015 #58

She did have an open adoption TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #61

A woman came in for her third abortion in 1 year. In talking with her, it came out that she was in a uppityperson Nov 2015 #60

K&R stage left Nov 2015 #21

I'll go you one better. http://fundabortionnow.org/ eggplant Nov 2015 #22

Thank you for reposting this. I missed it the first time around chowder66 Nov 2015 #24

My pleasure and I agree, it's a beautiful piece and every single point sound and important. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #27

I too wish more would read the whole piece, it's not that long. The writer's points are important. chowder66 Nov 2015 #62

Me, too. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #25

and humans are the Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #73

Sime of the analogies used are not comparable, but most important not one word is mentioned about still_one Nov 2015 #26

Then you didn't read the whole piece. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #28

I only read the OP, and didn't select the link within the OP. I will do so now. Thanks still_one Nov 2015 #37

Well, contraception was implied in that in the "when all else fails" portion. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #39

Abortion cannot be used as contraception. There was already a conception. haele Nov 2015 #36

I agree, they are different tools, but abortion could be avoided in many cases if proper still_one Nov 2015 #38

7. I’m pro-abortion because contraceptives are imperfect, and people are too. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #42

I have always been pro-choice. I am a guy so it is none of my business what a woman wants to do still_one Nov 2015 #43

True that... haele Nov 2015 #65

Yes, there are always exception. When the pill is used correctly it is 99% effective. Condoms when still_one Nov 2015 #83

In the real world, 1 in 11 women relying on the Pill gets pregnant each year. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #84

I never said I was against abortion or access to abortion. The only thing I said was that it still_one Nov 2015 #95

K&R! Solly Mack Nov 2015 #29

Thanks to posts like yours, I've come to realize that I'm pro-abortion AND pro-choice. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #30

That's awesome. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #31

Unwanted children have a very difficult life especially if they are raised by the mothers who did Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #32

It's true. It's cruel for the child, the parent and many other family members. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #33

It is very cruel to the unwanted child and to the mother of that child. It's a drain on society. This Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #55

Reason #11.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #34

:) PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #35

LOL PADemD Nov 2015 #48

K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #45

I think abortions should be available leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #47

Giving birth is far more stressful, painful and takes far longer to recover from. REP Nov 2015 #49

I am not pro-knee replacement or pro-chemotherapy. pnwmom Nov 2015 #50

I’m pro-abortion because contraceptives are imperfect, and people are too. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #52

Why not? Why would anyone not be pro-necessary medical procedure? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #59

K&R CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #51

I am pro women's right to make their own decisions. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #53

Amen. And that includes abortion. So we are also pro abortion. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #54

If that is what a woman any decides, it should be legal Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #56

Yes. Proudly pro-abortion here! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #57

Sing it, sister! PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #63

100% agree! hifiguy Nov 2015 #64

KNR "Safe and *rare* is not an acceptable framework. n/t DirkGently Nov 2015 #66

Yup. My feelings on that are fairly well known here. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #67

Mine too...I don't find that Clinton frame acceptable. haikugal Nov 2015 #89

It's also the Obama frame. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #127

Excellent. No one objects when we disturb "God's plan" by extending life. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #68

They interject with reproductive freedom because of the core tenants on Christianity include a woman PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #69

K&R LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #70

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #71

“Whatever is my right as a man is also the right of another; and it becomes my duty to guarantee as Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #72

I remember your last op earlier this year, I believe. Quackers Nov 2015 #74

That's between women and their doctors. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #75

Ok Quackers Nov 2015 #76

It's a medical decision. People should involve who they want to in their medical decisions. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #77

Well said roody Nov 2015 #82

And what about burrowowl Nov 2015 #86

If men could get pregnant they'd finally understand what choice is all about. SheilaT Nov 2015 #92

One nitpick (I otherwise agree wholeheartedly!) ncjustice80 Nov 2015 #96

Welp, I just became pro abortion. nt retrowire Nov 2015 #99

It's OK, you're in a safe place. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #104

:) retrowire Nov 2015 #120

KNR...n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #103

Point 10 is particularly powerful to me. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2015 #107

I am sorry but I have to say that humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #108

If you're really pro choice, you are, too. You're just too scared to say the words. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #109

Yes I get all of that... humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #111

Also, no, my goal is not to reduce abortions. Absolutely not. I don't want it "rarer". PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #110

Yep, and almost nobody on this thread would loudly proclaim in public that they are "pro-abortion", Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #113

Obama is responsible for removing that phrase from the party platform in 2008. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #116

"Obama Uses "Safe, Legal and Rare" Term in Answering Question on Abortion" (2010) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #121

Yeah, and you know my feelings on that. But it *was* removed from the party platform. Progress! PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #123

You, as a private individual can take this position, but for a politician, it would be disastrous karynnj Nov 2015 #117

That is what I fight for. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #122

There is a huge difference in the meanings of the word karynnj Nov 2015 #129

You're "implicitly assuming". I am discussing. PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #131

The onslaught of bullshit starting with the "Pro-choice is fine with me" wisecrack... SpankMe Nov 2015 #119

k and r and thanks for reposting this. niyad Nov 2015 #125

Me too, PeaceNikki. nt DLevine Nov 2015 #128