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In reply to the discussion: There is a serious anti-Christian vibe around here [View all]whatthehey
(3,660 posts)This is exactly why any branch of supernatural belief that posits a greater than human transcendent authority is both a grave risk and a cover for extremism.
The problem is, even in the 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance that there really is a god of some kind, and compound that probability by positing it cares what some hairless apes in a galactic backwater do, the fucking thing ain't saying shit about it, and is with incredible reckless and feckless aplomb apparently relying on internally contradictory, syncretic, jumbled mishmashes of Bronze Age through Medieval foundation myths, cultural aphorisms and social commentary interpreted through a couple of millennia of Chinese whispers to communicate what it wants. If there isn't one? The widespread belief to the contrary makes that moot.
So what we have is a situation where anybody, from the few who have a genuine altruistic intent through the many hucksters to the few (but not few enough sadly) sociopathic monsters, gets an equal shot at persuading people that their version of the Chinese whisper is the true and perfect version of what a perfect and loving, but silent and unverifiable, deity wants from us. And since when were genuine altruists more charismatic and persuasive than hucksters and sociopaths? There's a reason Schweitzer managed a hospital and Hitler an empire.
And by even accepting that a silent and unverifiable god CAN genuinely say something, anything at all, about human morality or society, you perpetuate that ability of the hucksters and the sociopaths to twist that belief to their own ends far more effectively than the altruists ever do. Don't you guys have sins of omission and commission? Can't you see the overwhelmingly negative impact of not saying en-2-billion-strong-masse "wait a minute, how exactly do we know God wants X, or is even there to want X in the first place? Let's prove that before we enact so-and-so's opinion on the matter into law or integrate it into social norms".
A silent supernatural overlord can, and does, say anything to anybody, without proof. The only way to stop him saying "kill all Jews/gays/nonbelievers" is to stop him saying anything at all until everyone can hear it directly.