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RobertEarl

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32. Nukes are the most difficult

Tue May 29, 2012, 09:48 AM

May 2012

Coal can be fired up in a matter of hours. Nukes take weeks.

Why do you hate solar power? And why do you love nukes?

I've seen you on here protecting nukes. Why?

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TWENTY NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS - Fifty Percent of the nation's energy needs. [View all] Ichingcarpenter May 2012 OP

Misleading title/headline They_Live May 2012 #1

K&R & ditto on the terrible title. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #2

Wonderful malaise May 2012 #3

Would be much easier in the US DLnyc May 2012 #4

Yet solar produces only 4% of Germany's electricity use. Robb May 2012 #5

A 32,000% increase in the last decade. girl gone mad May 2012 #15

Earth's insects weigh more than all other animals put together. Robb May 2012 #17

Not only that Harmony Blue May 2012 #22

Could you clarify? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #91

The OP's source truncated the Reuters article Robb May 2012 #92

The news is good, but it isn't that good XemaSab May 2012 #6

Every source of generation requires "huge amounts of backup" kristopher May 2012 #8

So on one day for one minute solar contributed almost half the electrical needs for the country XemaSab May 2012 #9

What is currently providing it? kristopher May 2012 #10

I am not going to get into it with you right now XemaSab May 2012 #11

But the reserve can be organised to act for the entire grid muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #14

Thank you very much for that source. kristopher May 2012 #16

US generating capacity is about 1000 Gigawatts, almost all available at any time. FarCenter May 2012 #7

hmmm RobertEarl May 2012 #12

Reagan economic policy also seems popular on DU these days. girl gone mad May 2012 #18

You can probably get to about 50% solar and wind without a storage technology FarCenter May 2012 #19

Costs : Economics RobertEarl May 2012 #20

It costs more money to clean up the mess Harmony Blue May 2012 #23

Yes indeed RobertEarl May 2012 #24

It's not only money jeff47 May 2012 #33

Hate coal RobertEarl May 2012 #34

Cheerleading isn't going to invent anything jeff47 May 2012 #37

they do not need direct sun light to work and they do work in cloudy weather. Sea-Dog May 2012 #55

They work, but poorly jeff47 May 2012 #68

Really. ‘Absolute Black’ Solar Panels Absorb Almost All Sunlight Sea-Dog May 2012 #79

"Ain't that far away" is still not available today jeff47 May 2012 #81

This is today's technology getting cheaper all the time. In the market before the first brick on Sea-Dog May 2012 #95

Not talking about new nuclear plants, I'm talking about the push to close the old ones. jeff47 May 2012 #96

What do you not get about developed.. it is todays. Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #98

Producing a lab prototype is not the same as a product cheap enough to slap on everyone's house jeff47 Jun 2012 #99

What happens if your "air conditioner" is actually part of a home energy storage system? kristopher May 2012 #27

These things are possible, but they require huge amounts of capital to implement FarCenter May 2012 #29

Here's the difference kristopher May 2012 #30

There is huge resistance to hydro among environmentalists FarCenter May 2012 #65

Hydro is pretty much tapped out in the US jeff47 May 2012 #35

That's pretty much what I thought FarCenter May 2012 #39

We can already "turn off" Niagra Falls. jeff47 May 2012 #43

So you think 30gigawatts of easy to develop hydro is nothing? kristopher May 2012 #54

If I dam 30 small rivers, I can produce a lot of power jeff47 May 2012 #63

30 GW of distributed is 30 GW. You haven't read the studies. kristopher May 2012 #70

30 GW is 0 GW when you can't get the dam built. jeff47 May 2012 #72

I am enjoying watching the business majors try to argue with a physicist. girl gone mad May 2012 #84

Who in this discussion are the business majors and who is the physicist? XemaSab May 2012 #87

In California pretty much every drop is already spoken for XemaSab May 2012 #57

Post 54: DOE study says your claim isn't close to being accurate kristopher May 2012 #60

You're right, I don't know what I am talking about XemaSab May 2012 #61

At least you admit it. kristopher May 2012 #62

Is there a key for reading the assessment? XemaSab May 2012 #64

I'm digging through the report XemaSab May 2012 #69

Google Map - Massive Geothermal Potential Nationwide, “Effectively an Unlimited Supply” Says Chu kristopher May 2012 #73

Why are you changing the subject to geothermal? XemaSab May 2012 #74

The only problem with those 250 degree centigrade rocks is that they are 21,000 feet down. FarCenter May 2012 #78

No. jeff47 May 2012 #31

Nukes are the most difficult RobertEarl May 2012 #32

Because I a more concerned about climate change than nuclear accidents. jeff47 May 2012 #36

Nuke waste RobertEarl May 2012 #38

No, I'd reprocess it. jeff47 May 2012 #40

Talk about cheerleading RobertEarl May 2012 #42

The difference is I'm talking about technologies that already exist jeff47 May 2012 #45

I'm done with you RobertEarl May 2012 #47

You don't get to be done. jeff47 May 2012 #48

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No, I'm asking questions. You are avoiding thinking about them jeff47 May 2012 #51

Troll this RobertEarl May 2012 #52

In the time it takes to build one nuclear plant kristopher May 2012 #59

That would be relevant if we were talking about building more nuclear plants. jeff47 May 2012 #71

Don't throw your straw man arguments at me. kristopher May 2012 #75

The posts are right there, until you delete them. jeff47 May 2012 #76

So how is this different from my perspective on nuclear, exactly? XemaSab May 2012 #77

You clearly do not have a clue about this topic kristopher May 2012 #56

So...you'd like me to more-or-less provide my home address so that I can jeff47 May 2012 #66

How is providing a resource assessment going to identify an address? kristopher May 2012 #80

I hope you'll someday notice the part in all my posts where I talk about base load. jeff47 May 2012 #82

Much of that hydro is Niagra, which has been in operation since the dawn of electricity FarCenter May 2012 #85

Selling electricity generated by the Sun can make money Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #13

Third thread I'll copy this into... SidDithers May 2012 #21

Why do you hate solar? RobertEarl May 2012 #25

... SidDithers May 2012 #28

Dyson Spheres are the answer Angelshare1 May 2012 #83

How feasible are PV panels in space? cbrer Jun 2012 #100

Not so. What is misleading is to make "capacity factor" seem more important than it is. kristopher May 2012 #26

Uh.... jeff47 May 2012 #46

Energy storage is a problem with solar power. Selatius May 2012 #53

And if the guys working on fusion were further along, that could solve the problem too jeff47 May 2012 #67

Hopes and dreams? girl gone mad May 2012 #86

Did you not read the first sentence in the linked article? jeff47 May 2012 #93

No, but earth would dictate we would have to design one without gas and coal sooner than later. Selatius May 2012 #89

Word XemaSab May 2012 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab May 2012 #58

German Power Grids Increasingly Strained FarCenter May 2012 #41

Germany needs to be applauded for that. Trillo May 2012 #44

k&r... spanone May 2012 #50

ROFLMAO kristopher May 2012 #88

Great News! (nt) fascisthunter May 2012 #90

Should we buy a clue for $5.00 Alec? lonestarnot May 2012 #94