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In reply to the discussion: TWENTY NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS - Fifty Percent of the nation's energy needs. [View all]Sea-Dog
(247 posts)55. they do not need direct sun light to work and they do work in cloudy weather.
Last edited Tue May 29, 2012, 01:08 PM - Edit history (1)
furthermore"sunniness doesnt correspond exactly to the amount of solar energy you get out of a PV system. The best solar panels on the market today are only around 18% efficient under good conditions. At high temperatures for example, solar panels become less efficient. If the temperature of the solar panels increases by 20oC, they will only produce around 90% of the energy they would at room temperature. This means that on a clear but cold day in London, solar panels could produce more energy than a hot and sunny day in Spain.
Another factor is the difference between clear days and cloudy days. In the UK we get a lot of cloudy weather which blocks the sun and leads to diffuse sunlight (meaning from all directions) rather than direct sunlight. The four sunniest months of the year in the UK (May-August) deliver 5 times as much solar energy as the four winter months of the year (Nov-Feb). Solar panels can still turn diffuse light into electricity though, and there is evidence to suggest that some types of solar panels are better at collecting it than others. This means we may be able to improve the difference between London and Barcelona by using different technologies."
It isn't outside the realms of possibility to make ones that work better depending on the climate.
To summarise;
Technologies that can work by turning diffused sun light into electricity can overcome any shortcomings negating any need to transfer power. Needless to say the level of sun light that hits the UK is 50 times that it uses. A cloudy climate if there is ever one.
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TWENTY NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS - Fifty Percent of the nation's energy needs. [View all]
Ichingcarpenter
May 2012
OP
So on one day for one minute solar contributed almost half the electrical needs for the country
XemaSab
May 2012
#9
US generating capacity is about 1000 Gigawatts, almost all available at any time.
FarCenter
May 2012
#7
You can probably get to about 50% solar and wind without a storage technology
FarCenter
May 2012
#19
This is today's technology getting cheaper all the time. In the market before the first brick on
Sea-Dog
May 2012
#95
Not talking about new nuclear plants, I'm talking about the push to close the old ones.
jeff47
May 2012
#96
Producing a lab prototype is not the same as a product cheap enough to slap on everyone's house
jeff47
Jun 2012
#99
What happens if your "air conditioner" is actually part of a home energy storage system?
kristopher
May 2012
#27
These things are possible, but they require huge amounts of capital to implement
FarCenter
May 2012
#29
I am enjoying watching the business majors try to argue with a physicist.
girl gone mad
May 2012
#84
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kristopher
May 2012
#73
The only problem with those 250 degree centigrade rocks is that they are 21,000 feet down.
FarCenter
May 2012
#78
I hope you'll someday notice the part in all my posts where I talk about base load.
jeff47
May 2012
#82
Much of that hydro is Niagra, which has been in operation since the dawn of electricity
FarCenter
May 2012
#85
Not so. What is misleading is to make "capacity factor" seem more important than it is.
kristopher
May 2012
#26
And if the guys working on fusion were further along, that could solve the problem too
jeff47
May 2012
#67