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Sea-Dog

(247 posts)
55. they do not need direct sun light to work and they do work in cloudy weather.
Tue May 29, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 29, 2012, 01:08 PM - Edit history (1)

furthermore

"sunniness doesn’t correspond exactly to the amount of solar energy you get out of a PV system. The best solar panels on the market today are only around 18% efficient under good conditions. At high temperatures for example, solar panels become less efficient. If the temperature of the solar panels increases by 20oC, they will only produce around 90% of the energy they would at room temperature. This means that on a clear but cold day in London, solar panels could produce more energy than a hot and sunny day in Spain.

Another factor is the difference between clear days and cloudy days. In the UK we get a lot of cloudy weather which blocks the sun and leads to ‘diffuse’ sunlight (meaning from all directions) rather than ‘direct’ sunlight. The four sunniest months of the year in the UK (May-August) deliver 5 times as much solar energy as the four winter months of the year (Nov-Feb). Solar panels can still turn diffuse light into electricity though, and there is evidence to suggest that some types of solar panels are better at collecting it than others. This means we may be able to improve the difference between London and Barcelona by using different technologies."

It isn't outside the realms of possibility to make ones that work better depending on the climate.

To summarise;
Technologies that can work by turning diffused sun light into electricity can overcome any shortcomings negating any need to transfer power. Needless to say the level of sun light that hits the UK is 50 times that it uses. A cloudy climate if there is ever one.

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Misleading title/headline They_Live May 2012 #1
K&R & ditto on the terrible title. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #2
Wonderful malaise May 2012 #3
Would be much easier in the US DLnyc May 2012 #4
Yet solar produces only 4% of Germany's electricity use. Robb May 2012 #5
A 32,000% increase in the last decade. girl gone mad May 2012 #15
Earth's insects weigh more than all other animals put together. Robb May 2012 #17
Not only that Harmony Blue May 2012 #22
Could you clarify? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #91
The OP's source truncated the Reuters article Robb May 2012 #92
The news is good, but it isn't that good XemaSab May 2012 #6
Every source of generation requires "huge amounts of backup" kristopher May 2012 #8
So on one day for one minute solar contributed almost half the electrical needs for the country XemaSab May 2012 #9
What is currently providing it? kristopher May 2012 #10
I am not going to get into it with you right now XemaSab May 2012 #11
But the reserve can be organised to act for the entire grid muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #14
Thank you very much for that source. kristopher May 2012 #16
US generating capacity is about 1000 Gigawatts, almost all available at any time. FarCenter May 2012 #7
hmmm RobertEarl May 2012 #12
Reagan economic policy also seems popular on DU these days. girl gone mad May 2012 #18
You can probably get to about 50% solar and wind without a storage technology FarCenter May 2012 #19
Costs : Economics RobertEarl May 2012 #20
It costs more money to clean up the mess Harmony Blue May 2012 #23
Yes indeed RobertEarl May 2012 #24
It's not only money jeff47 May 2012 #33
Hate coal RobertEarl May 2012 #34
Cheerleading isn't going to invent anything jeff47 May 2012 #37
they do not need direct sun light to work and they do work in cloudy weather. Sea-Dog May 2012 #55
They work, but poorly jeff47 May 2012 #68
Really. ‘Absolute Black’ Solar Panels Absorb Almost All Sunlight Sea-Dog May 2012 #79
"Ain't that far away" is still not available today jeff47 May 2012 #81
This is today's technology getting cheaper all the time. In the market before the first brick on Sea-Dog May 2012 #95
Not talking about new nuclear plants, I'm talking about the push to close the old ones. jeff47 May 2012 #96
What do you not get about developed.. it is todays. Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #98
Producing a lab prototype is not the same as a product cheap enough to slap on everyone's house jeff47 Jun 2012 #99
What happens if your "air conditioner" is actually part of a home energy storage system? kristopher May 2012 #27
These things are possible, but they require huge amounts of capital to implement FarCenter May 2012 #29
Here's the difference kristopher May 2012 #30
There is huge resistance to hydro among environmentalists FarCenter May 2012 #65
Hydro is pretty much tapped out in the US jeff47 May 2012 #35
That's pretty much what I thought FarCenter May 2012 #39
We can already "turn off" Niagra Falls. jeff47 May 2012 #43
So you think 30gigawatts of easy to develop hydro is nothing? kristopher May 2012 #54
If I dam 30 small rivers, I can produce a lot of power jeff47 May 2012 #63
30 GW of distributed is 30 GW. You haven't read the studies. kristopher May 2012 #70
30 GW is 0 GW when you can't get the dam built. jeff47 May 2012 #72
I am enjoying watching the business majors try to argue with a physicist. girl gone mad May 2012 #84
Who in this discussion are the business majors and who is the physicist? XemaSab May 2012 #87
In California pretty much every drop is already spoken for XemaSab May 2012 #57
Post 54: DOE study says your claim isn't close to being accurate kristopher May 2012 #60
You're right, I don't know what I am talking about XemaSab May 2012 #61
At least you admit it. kristopher May 2012 #62
Is there a key for reading the assessment? XemaSab May 2012 #64
I'm digging through the report XemaSab May 2012 #69
Google Map - Massive Geothermal Potential Nationwide, “Effectively an Unlimited Supply” Says Chu kristopher May 2012 #73
Why are you changing the subject to geothermal? XemaSab May 2012 #74
The only problem with those 250 degree centigrade rocks is that they are 21,000 feet down. FarCenter May 2012 #78
No. jeff47 May 2012 #31
Nukes are the most difficult RobertEarl May 2012 #32
Because I a more concerned about climate change than nuclear accidents. jeff47 May 2012 #36
Nuke waste RobertEarl May 2012 #38
No, I'd reprocess it. jeff47 May 2012 #40
Talk about cheerleading RobertEarl May 2012 #42
The difference is I'm talking about technologies that already exist jeff47 May 2012 #45
I'm done with you RobertEarl May 2012 #47
You don't get to be done. jeff47 May 2012 #48
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #49
No, I'm asking questions. You are avoiding thinking about them jeff47 May 2012 #51
Troll this RobertEarl May 2012 #52
In the time it takes to build one nuclear plant kristopher May 2012 #59
That would be relevant if we were talking about building more nuclear plants. jeff47 May 2012 #71
Don't throw your straw man arguments at me. kristopher May 2012 #75
The posts are right there, until you delete them. jeff47 May 2012 #76
So how is this different from my perspective on nuclear, exactly? XemaSab May 2012 #77
You clearly do not have a clue about this topic kristopher May 2012 #56
So...you'd like me to more-or-less provide my home address so that I can jeff47 May 2012 #66
How is providing a resource assessment going to identify an address? kristopher May 2012 #80
I hope you'll someday notice the part in all my posts where I talk about base load. jeff47 May 2012 #82
Much of that hydro is Niagra, which has been in operation since the dawn of electricity FarCenter May 2012 #85
Selling electricity generated by the Sun can make money Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #13
Third thread I'll copy this into... SidDithers May 2012 #21
Why do you hate solar? RobertEarl May 2012 #25
... SidDithers May 2012 #28
Dyson Spheres are the answer Angelshare1 May 2012 #83
How feasible are PV panels in space? cbrer Jun 2012 #100
Not so. What is misleading is to make "capacity factor" seem more important than it is. kristopher May 2012 #26
Uh.... jeff47 May 2012 #46
Energy storage is a problem with solar power. Selatius May 2012 #53
And if the guys working on fusion were further along, that could solve the problem too jeff47 May 2012 #67
Hopes and dreams? girl gone mad May 2012 #86
Did you not read the first sentence in the linked article? jeff47 May 2012 #93
No, but earth would dictate we would have to design one without gas and coal sooner than later. Selatius May 2012 #89
Word XemaSab May 2012 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab May 2012 #58
German Power Grids Increasingly Strained FarCenter May 2012 #41
Germany needs to be applauded for that. Trillo May 2012 #44
k&r... spanone May 2012 #50
ROFLMAO kristopher May 2012 #88
Great News! (nt) fascisthunter May 2012 #90
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