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Matrosov

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26. I understand

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:57 PM

Dec 2015

At the end of the day, the rate of fire, magazine capacity, caliber, and so forth, don't matter much

As horrible as mass shootings are and as much as we like to get upset about the assault weapons and high capacity magazines used in them, it's also true that the body count is dwarfed by the thousands of firearm related homicides that involve only one or two people and are typically carried out with handguns.

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700 rounds/minute [View all] lindysalsagal Dec 2015 OP

A coworker complained to me about a gun he couldnt own here but randys1 Dec 2015 #1

I feel the same about medical cannibus, but that Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #86

So, are you telling him passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #91

There is simply no way that's true Krytan11c Dec 2015 #2

Just reported by Wolf in CNN. Obviously, I have no idea, myself. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #5

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to attack you Krytan11c Dec 2015 #17

50 or 200, that's still 50 or 200 too many. Hoyt Dec 2015 #55

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #89

You might want to consider where you are posting passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #92

God - get rid of this gun porn video packman Dec 2015 #116

800 rds/minute is the official rating for the AR Mnpaul Dec 2015 #133

800 would be the rate of a full-auto M-16. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #135

if its a sandy gun its a bushmaster roguevalley Dec 2015 #79

And if it were a fully-automatic Kalashnikov EL34x4 Dec 2015 #9

You Can Own Them ozone82 Dec 2015 #98

True. I've forgotten about NFA weapons EL34x4 Dec 2015 #108

The name of that "animal" is 'man' SummerSnow Dec 2015 #3

It is amazing what 36 barrels firing at the same time will do. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #101

Your still talking a 750 rounds/sec X 36 Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #117

Yes, that is the math. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #118

Could you imagine what would happen in a beachhead landing with a few of those? Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #121

Having seen the movie "Saving Private Ryan", ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #124

I saw that, and I've also seen the real footage from ww2. Horrifying enough. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #125

I don't have to imagine Mnpaul Dec 2015 #134

Unfortunately, after 21 seconds the A-10 is out of ammo. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #136

Give the gun-humpers ten minutes. hifiguy Dec 2015 #4

While I think blitzer made a mistake nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #70

Look above. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #147

What's it going to take? 20 grade-schoolers didn't do it. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #6

For the gun-humpers to be the subjects of gun violence. That's what it would take. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #76

I made that remark after handmade34 Dec 2015 #100

But gunz gunz and moar gunz! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #156

I was going to say inverse proportion to penis size. Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #7

I was going to say, "Go for it," but I decided not to. valerief Dec 2015 #29

Link? Thank you uppityperson Dec 2015 #8

Sorry: Live TV CNN n/t. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #13

If you can find me a gun linuxman Dec 2015 #10

Here's one right here. n/fn/t MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #14

Thanks for that. world wide wally Dec 2015 #15

You should feel safe. linuxman Dec 2015 #20

I'm not the only one here that is sick of this mindless bullshit world wide wally Dec 2015 #31

Mindless BS? linuxman Dec 2015 #34

Yes mindless bullshit! world wide wally Dec 2015 #42

Hardly. linuxman Dec 2015 #49

Those people had a right to live world wide wally Dec 2015 #50

Yes, they do. linuxman Dec 2015 #54

Guns are different. If they weren't you wouldn't love them so much. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #60

Guns are for killing or maiming living things. hifiguy Dec 2015 #63

Is one who dies from scherosis or a drunk driver less dead? linuxman Dec 2015 #71

Go ahead: Aim a bottle of whiskey at me. The difference will become apparent lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #77

Oh no! linuxman Dec 2015 #82

Boy, have you lost it. Fuck you're fucking guns! Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #144

I will never own a gun either... meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #149

Nobody said you had to, did they? Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #161

Yes. Anyone who advocates gun confiscation. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2015 #165

Well, I don't advocate that. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #168

Everything you named can cause death by accident world wide wally Dec 2015 #88

+ infinity n/t etherealtruth Dec 2015 #142

Yeah...that is something hard to deny. Rex Dec 2015 #148

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #57

You shouldn't have the right to own this kind of gun. It's insane. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #45

If it's a 700 rpm automatic rifle as reported, nobody does. linuxman Dec 2015 #51

Your "rights" helped kill 14 people this afternoon Nevernose Dec 2015 #48

The right to own again does not belong in a civilized society. alarimer Dec 2015 #87

The gun murder lovers will never be happy SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #105

In what way is Linuxman a "monster"? Marengo Dec 2015 #141

That's just a figure of speach - no such thing as real monsters. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #145

exactly what militia did these mikeysnot Dec 2015 #154

The 2nd amendment was a mistake. Owning a gun is not a civil right. morningfog Dec 2015 #62

Which 34 States do you think will be on board? linuxman Dec 2015 #64

It a tough row, but we'll hoe it eventually. morningfog Dec 2015 #69

Actually, if it is interpreted the way it was written Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #146

Careful...the way it is written, the people in the militias jmg257 Dec 2015 #150

I don't think it would work like that. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #162

At the time of the Constitution, it was mandatory for all males 18-45 jmg257 Dec 2015 #164

But what does that have to do with 2015? Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #167

Did you feel safe this morning? linuxman Dec 2015 #66

Apparently, I feel much safer than you do and I don't even own a gun world wide wally Dec 2015 #90

I don't have a gun to protect myself at all times. linuxman Dec 2015 #107

He's telling you that if the weapon WAS automatic, it was likely already illegal. Adrahil Dec 2015 #119

If I wanted one I could get one tomarrow with no background check, Zero fees, doc03 Dec 2015 #19

Impossible. They are illegal. Thanks for proving my point. linuxman Dec 2015 #23

Since when is the AR15 illegal? The AR 15 in semi auto can be fired in excess of 100 RPM and doc03 Dec 2015 #32

We were talking about a rifle that shoots 700 rpm. linuxman Dec 2015 #38

No you are arguing about bullshit a law enforcement officer made the statement they may have had doc03 Dec 2015 #53

You should care. linuxman Dec 2015 #56

they can be easily altered to shoot full auto. hifiguy Dec 2015 #44

They cannot be easily converted to full auto. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #68

They cannot. Don't trust everything that happens on Law & Order Recursion Dec 2015 #122

It's illegal in California if its magazine detaches Recursion Dec 2015 #126

We can't even get "them" to admit we have a problem etherealtruth Dec 2015 #11

Semi-automatic weapons don't fire that fast Matrosov Dec 2015 #12

Just quoting Wolf on CNN. I wouldn't know. n/t. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #16

Well, that's really comforting to know. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #21

I understand Matrosov Dec 2015 #26

They can be easily altered to fire full auto. It wasn't Wolf it was a law enforcement officer doc03 Dec 2015 #28

Thanks. I was just getting in the house. n/t. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #30

No they are not hack89 Dec 2015 #33

No, they cannot "easy" be converted to full auto. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #35

People think they can be easily altered. EL34x4 Dec 2015 #40

This easily altered is an internet rumour. Waldorf Dec 2015 #109

No they can't be easily converted Sassysdad Dec 2015 #114

Ever heard of bump fire? Electric Monk Dec 2015 #36

Yeah, that's cool EL34x4 Dec 2015 #47

The topic was Rounds Per Minute, but thanks for playing. nt Electric Monk Dec 2015 #74

That's a slide fire stock.... Adrahil Dec 2015 #120

Fast enough to kill innocent people. Gunners tell us rifles aren't used in crimes too. Hoyt Dec 2015 #59

No, us gunners, as you call us, say no such thing. We will say rifles (which include those scary Waldorf Dec 2015 #132

I have to ask why you guys love those scary black ones. Hoyt Dec 2015 #138

I can give you several reasons why I like them. They are accurate. Lower recoil. Modular. Can change Waldorf Dec 2015 #139

The advertizers know their market. Hoyt Dec 2015 #143

Seems to be as the popularity of these assault weapons increases, jmg257 Dec 2015 #152

Oh really? Straw Man Dec 2015 #140

Has the Gungeon weighed in yet? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #18

Not a peep. KamaAina Dec 2015 #22

Oops. I see one upthread. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #24

They're out from under their rocks now. hifiguy Dec 2015 #46

Wow. I read that as "socks." Iggo Dec 2015 #58

. .. hifiguy Dec 2015 #61

Zombies. They never fucking die. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #84

They are too busy talking to their buddies about the types of weapons used, magazine size, how Hoyt Dec 2015 #65

Are you withholding info on us? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #73

Get you some ATF friends, and you'll know all kinds of crud about gunners. Hoyt Dec 2015 #75

Is that a "no, you don't have any additional info about this event" to give us? ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #83

Oh yea. They claim you can't buy and AR 15 and they can't fire 700 RPM. What is the doc03 Dec 2015 #41

Ding! Ding! TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #94

The difference is accurate math. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #104

The point is this. beevul Dec 2015 #159

Well, the gungeon delegation has showed up. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #99

A standard revolver has been shot 6 times in one second Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #25

Finally, someone who understands rates of fire vs amount of fire. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #37

Too bad our gunners can't understand needless deaths due to their sick hobby. Hoyt Dec 2015 #67

Glad you cleared THAT up. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #72

6 rounds per second = 600 rounds per minute? NoGOPZone Dec 2015 #81

It's that "new math" thing they teach these days. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #85

Well meteric is multiples of 10... so if 6 standard = 10 meteric Glassunion Dec 2015 #93

Maybe it will take some industry bigger than the gun industry. ErikJ Dec 2015 #27

Insurance industry and city governments. There will be hundreds of millions paid in workman's comp Turn CO Blue Dec 2015 #127

Gun lobbyists vs Insurance lobbyists? ErikJ Dec 2015 #129

Watch a video of revolver shooting and reloading sometime. 1939 Dec 2015 #39

But they're such fun at the shooting range BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #43

The world is their shooting range. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #113

The NRA sells the idea that civilians need these weapons to protect themselves from their government Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #52

after every massacre, Congress crawls on its knees to NRAILA and begs forgiveness MisterP Dec 2015 #78

So WTF happens when some of these crazies decide to shoot up a political party headquarters? jalan48 Dec 2015 #80

Or NRA HQ. Or Congess. Or who knows what? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #95

I don't think these are the kind people that would shoot up the NRA. jalan48 Dec 2015 #97

Most military assault rifles 600 to 700 rounds a minute. The Belgium FN FAL for example sarge43 Dec 2015 #96

Military assault rifles are automatic (machine guns). ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #102

These gun bastards aren't going to be satisfied with Assault Rifles after a while. I expect we will The_Casual_Observer Dec 2015 #103

And here's the disconnect Recursion Dec 2015 #128

Sounds to me like some TV newsmoran has been into the arsenic face powder again jmowreader Dec 2015 #110

Guns cause insanity, but excess !!!! do not sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #111

None but what you are saying is much different than what jwirr Dec 2015 #112

Nothing will change EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #115

It's a gun culture rockfordfile Dec 2015 #123

700 or 70, we need them all gone off the streets mwrguy Dec 2015 #130

What makes them so special that they need to go ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #137

I'd say it's the semi-auto action combined with high capacity removable mags. jmg257 Dec 2015 #153

they aren't special mwrguy Dec 2015 #155

Inside job: Health inspector gone postal. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #131

The AR-15 shoots 700 rounds per minute? B2G Dec 2015 #151

No, semi-auto AR-15 rifles cannot file anywhere close to that fast. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #157

Sorry, didn't think i needed the sarcasm thingy. nt B2G Dec 2015 #158

This is DU. You always need the sarcasm thingy. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #160

Lol. I should know that by now B2G Dec 2015 #163

I can only think of 2: bvar22 Dec 2015 #166