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Straw Man

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18. And handed over illegally.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:50 AM

Dec 2015

The guns were bought legally

and then handed over. Something is wrong with a system that allows that to happen and the nra has come out against universal background checks. Their hands are bloody.

You're missing the point. Yes, the NRA opposes UBCs. California doesn't give a crap -- they passed them anyway. It isn't exactly an NRA stronghold.

California's system doesn't "allow that to happen." The person who handed these weapons over did so in violation of California law. What does that have to do with the NRA? It could happen even if we had a federal UBC law in place.

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Explosives were found "rigged on remote control cars" (in San Bernardino) [View all] darkangel218 Dec 2015 OP

Where did they get their bombs and guns? JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #1

Illegally, obviously. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #6

Not so leftynyc Dec 2015 #9

It appears the two guns were bought legally by someone else darkangel218 Dec 2015 #10

How fucked up is it leftynyc Dec 2015 #12

And from the "black market". darkangel218 Dec 2015 #13

Yeah. Straw Man Dec 2015 #15

The guns were bought legally leftynyc Dec 2015 #16

And handed over illegally. Straw Man Dec 2015 #18

The NRA is against every single leftynyc Dec 2015 #23

It is not helpful to make such statements Mojorabbit Dec 2015 #30

The people didn't ignore the laws -- they circumvented them. Proving the need pnwmom Dec 2015 #35

Missed the point by a mile. Straw Man Dec 2015 #31

How about this point? gratuitous Dec 2015 #33

That's not a point. Straw Man Dec 2015 #37

Thanks for your response gratuitous Dec 2015 #40

You're welcome. Straw Man Dec 2015 #41

That would have been illegal here in Oregon. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #27

It was illegal in California too. Straw Man Dec 2015 #32

What are the consequences for violating this law? Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #34

Wrong question. beevul Dec 2015 #36

See above post. Straw Man Dec 2015 #38

I was thinking that leftynyc Dec 2015 #39

Loopholes. Straw Man Dec 2015 #43

But we don't know leftynyc Dec 2015 #44

No, we don't. Straw Man Dec 2015 #45

Already know laws were broken leftynyc Dec 2015 #46

You're not making any sense. Straw Man Dec 2015 #49

You're not understanding me leftynyc Dec 2015 #50

I think it's you who doesn't understand. Straw Man Dec 2015 #51

California has UBC laws that prohibit that Lee-Lee Dec 2015 #25

The handguns were bought legally, the rifles are illegal under CA law Lurks Often Dec 2015 #24

Who are Syed Rezwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik? Baclava Dec 2015 #2

they must have been really mad about that workplace argument 6chars Dec 2015 #4

It was premeditated. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #7

Or maybe purposefully started giving him an excuse to leave? polly7 Dec 2015 #8

That is probably what happened. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #11

The rigged car thing - where have I heard that before? 6chars Dec 2015 #14

"The Dead Pool" -- Dirty Harry. Straw Man Dec 2015 #17

Yes, that was it. 6chars Dec 2015 #19

Call of Duty?? Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #47

yes, that was it 6chars Dec 2015 #48

But they had arranged for the mother to watch the baby in the morning, Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #22

wonder where they got the idea and the know-how to rig these things... RayLib Dec 2015 #20

high school auto shop class? 6chars Dec 2015 #21

Remote control car out? What is that? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #3

Thanks. I posted from my cell. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #5

Just a disgruntled employee... TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #26

Because employees who are happy at their jobs target their coworkers at parties ck4829 Dec 2015 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #28

Wow, they were going to do something even worse. Glad they were stopped finally. Rex Dec 2015 #42