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sabrina 1

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70. No, this subject is about the behavior of the cops, nationwide, towards

Tue May 29, 2012, 03:27 PM

May 2012

peaceful protesters for eight months now. They have arrested over 7,000 people (but not one corrupt banker) and have injured, some very seriously, untold numbers of Americans simply for exercising their rights, including old people, disable people, elected officials, war veterans, journalists.

Why did you think this was about something it is not about? This is specifically about the treatment of the cops of American citizens exercising their constitutional right to protest and of the press to cover the news.

If you can defend this, now 8 month old problem of which there is no doubt, so well documented as it is, then feel free to do so.

But attempting to turn the topic into something it is not, is doing exactly what you are accusing the OP of.

The question is, should the US Civilian police be armed with military weapons, tanks etc and should people be beaten into unconsciousness simply because they are protesting?

Maybe the diversions in this thread are to try not to answer that question, but it does need to be answered so I am asking it again. What is your opinion on this specific topic, the coverage of the OWS movement and the behavior of the police towards US citizens?

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Police are always right. Do what they say. Trouble is never their fault. [View all] Fire Walk With Me May 2012 OP

Oh, they're all just bad apples RedCappedBandit May 2012 #1

lone wolves ... zbdent May 2012 #7

Occupy is never wrong. If anything bad happens, it's agents provacateurs... SidDithers May 2012 #2

Well, lets say the evidence shows that the ratio of wrongdoing re OWS V Cops, is approx. 99 - 1 sabrina 1 May 2012 #9

Obama is never wrong. If anything bad happens, it's the Republicans.... U4ikLefty May 2012 #43

Touch�. girl gone mad May 2012 #53

I took a Human Rights and Civil Liberties class 1976 orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #3

A very uneducated teacher treestar May 2012 #5

I think "Courtroom" covered that. orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #16

Very smart teacher as we have all learned. sabrina 1 May 2012 #6

Theory vs, practice. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #25

Was the point ,Thanks. orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #59

No one has said that treestar May 2012 #4

There are good cops, I know some personally, and they agree with the OP btw, the good ones. sabrina 1 May 2012 #8

Sounds like you talk to some all of the time orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #60

Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2012 #10

I'm bored today nobodyspecial May 2012 #11

I'll actually address this! Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #17

There may also be something wrong with obsessively posting the same thing over and over again. randome May 2012 #19

Perhaps the fact that the 'thing' has not been addressed has something to do with that. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #29

But that's the point. No one is saying there is no injustice. randome May 2012 #33

There's the problem, you missed the point and assigned you own. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #58

We are in agreement on that. randome May 2012 #61

Why? Is there a limit on how much we should talk about important issues that affect the American sabrina 1 May 2012 #44

So the 'important issue' is 'cops are always right'. randome May 2012 #55

No, this subject is about the behavior of the cops, nationwide, towards sabrina 1 May 2012 #70

Um, you brought up the subjects of torture and Iraq. randome May 2012 #72

Taking over 'other cities public parks'? Who did that? sabrina 1 May 2012 #79

People here speak of all this like it was anything new. Archae May 2012 #12

Cops are exactly the same, just ask the kid in LA who recently ate 90 bullets Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #18

LA's well-earned reputation goes back to the day the second white guy got there. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #31

Strawmen are always right. Do what they say. Trouble is never their fault. boppers May 2012 #13

Says the man who pushes the lie that marijuana causes overdose deaths. U4ikLefty May 2012 #20

I believe your counter-argument is called a non-sequitur. randome May 2012 #21

It's a multi-thread argument tactic. boppers May 2012 #24

Sure isn't your fault! randome May 2012 #27

It works best with people who see DU as a group of identities. boppers May 2012 #30

Hee hee. Find me that post. I dare you. boppers May 2012 #23

Here we go: boppers May 2012 #26

Hey, we meet again. sabrina 1 May 2012 #45

We "dance" in the same timezone. Hi! boppers May 2012 #50

Lol, by whom? If a cop is a good cop, and there were some in Chicago this past weekend thankfully, sabrina 1 May 2012 #52

How many teachers are you willing to fire because they "had a bad day"? boppers May 2012 #56

If a teacher nearly kills another human being and then prevents people from trying to go sabrina 1 May 2012 #69

"Nearly killed Scott Olsen"? boppers May 2012 #71

Yes. Nearly killed him. pinboy3niner May 2012 #77

Gabby Giffords vs. Scott Olsen. boppers May 2012 #80

Gabby Giffords wasn't shot by a cop at a peaceful protest pinboy3niner May 2012 #84

Yes. boppers May 2012 #91

No, that was one example. And no, he did NOT 'get hit on the head' he was deliberately targeted. sabrina 1 May 2012 #82

Again: boppers May 2012 #83

What civil law was either Kayvan Sabeghi or Scott Olsen violating? sabrina 1 May 2012 #85

I don't know anything, really, about Sabeghi. boppers May 2012 #92

Are you serious? You deserve to be nearly killed by the police for standing in the street? sabrina 1 May 2012 #93

Walk into traffic, and complain? boppers Jun 2012 #105

Asking again, because you did not answer this question yet. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #110

I don't quite grasp your question, I think. boppers Jun 2012 #113

I asked because you have posted so much inaccurate information that certainly did not come sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #114

You and I apparently have different ideas of what "dispute" means, it seems. boppers Jun 2012 #117

In your own words: sabrina 1 May 2012 #101

"the criminal actions of a man in uniform" like Olsen, or those who injured him. boppers Jun 2012 #106

You agree that the cop should have been sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #109

If a potentially successful case can be built, yes. boppers Jun 2012 #112

I don't think this will be a difficult case. Olsen has already filed sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #115

A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client. boppers Jun 2012 #118

Once again, I really wish you would take my suggestion, IF you are going to expound sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #119

Don't forget dispatchers too ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #14

Most disturbing (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #15

Fire, we have seen the police in their full "glory" and we know the truth. U4ikLefty May 2012 #22

I cannot be quiet. I will not be quiet. Not about injustice. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #28

Who are you? Batman? randome May 2012 #34

You should have seen the look pintobean May 2012 #39

Judging from the lack of direct responses to anything I post to FWWM, I'm sure I'm on Ignore. randome May 2012 #40

From a statistical analysis of this thread, Mc Mike May 2012 #67

Did it occur to you to just skip threads you do not like? sabrina 1 May 2012 #48

I'm hardly 'upset'. randome May 2012 #54

I have no one on ignore either, but there are a lot of people whose posts I don't read sabrina 1 May 2012 #68

Niemoller said it well. boppers May 2012 #32

Don't worry boppers, the Good Germans will be the last. nt U4ikLefty May 2012 #35

That is always the concern. boppers May 2012 #36

Clue to boppers. The Good Germans were NOT the middle. U4ikLefty May 2012 #38

I learned my German, as a child, from a "good" one. boppers May 2012 #42

Good to see what you reflect...maybe sometime (I doubt it) you will come to reality. U4ikLefty May 2012 #46

No, the working class and poor are desparate here. boppers May 2012 #51

The first video that you posted I find very disturbing me b zola May 2012 #37

If you look at the way things actually work in our society.. Fumesucker May 2012 #41

... Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #76

Why is it either/or? Either cops are evil or all good? nadine_mn May 2012 #47

No you won't be told you are a mindless sheep. I have been helped by good cops and have said so, and sabrina 1 May 2012 #49

I am forced to include as "bad cops", all good cops who say and do nothing Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #73

Thread title misleading!! SecurityManager May 2012 #57

Just a second there, SecurityManager. randome May 2012 #62

Funny seems original poster did the same SecurityManager May 2012 #63

Exactly. Sorry if my irony did not bleed through. randome May 2012 #64

I agree there are good cops and crazy people. However. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #74

What are you trying to accomplish exactly? Tom Rinaldo May 2012 #65

The OP did exactly what you propose.. 99Forever May 2012 #66

Thanks pinboy3niner: Article on Occupy exonerations, cops lying under oath: Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #75

Most cops "are" right. Life Long Dem May 2012 #78

Then people need to see Skid Row LA, they need to march with Occupy. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #96

Most likely the cops gave an order and people refused the order. Life Long Dem May 2012 #98

So cops should evaluate the constitutionality of every directive? randome May 2012 #99

"Some here appear to carry this philosophy" NCTraveler May 2012 #81

That would be calling out members, which is against the rules. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #87

"Some say..." "We hear..." "A reliable source informs us..." MineralMan May 2012 #89

PM me links where two or three members have taken this stand. I will then post them and take my.... NCTraveler May 2012 #95

K n/t NCTraveler Jun 2012 #124

-1E6. Typical broadbrush attack on the police. MineralMan May 2012 #86

Updated OP with cop comments, angry a man who was lied about by a cop, isn't in jail. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #88

I didn't notice this before. randome May 2012 #90

Updated stats prove that Rand's post #s 72 and 90 are funnier than his #34. Mc Mike May 2012 #94

Thank you for the stats and update! Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #97

You are not missing much. NT. Mc Mike Jun 2012 #103

Friend Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #120

Solidarity, Fire. NT. Mc Mike Jun 2012 #123

Um, 'anti' what, precisely? randome May 2012 #100

Well, it's hard work trying to justify the actions of the police since the protests began. sabrina 1 May 2012 #102

I've been following the info from the good side here, and the arguments from others. Mc Mike Jun 2012 #104

The OP makes claims pintobean Jun 2012 #107

Respecfully disagree, pb. Mc Mike Jun 2012 #108

All you have to do is read the thread. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #116

This, is apparently true, according to a former FBI agent: sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #111

Great conversation here. I've seen advice on this topic: If someone says be violent, walk away. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #121

Re your last sentence, Mc Mike Jun 2012 #122