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KamaAina

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108. While we argue this point at DU, over on the right, it's a slam dunk

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:18 PM

Dec 2015

Teh evul Mooslim terraists are taking over 'Murka with that there Shari'a law!!11!11!! Today San Bernardino, tomorrow Washington, D.C.!!111!1!!11!!

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This event appears to be workplace violence, not terrorism [View all] philosslayer Dec 2015 OP

So hassan wasn't a terrorist? Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #1

According to the DoD it was a case of workplace violence, not terrorism philosslayer Dec 2015 #5

Wishful thinking. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #11

Hassan? Work place violence? GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

I repeat, the Federal Government categorizes the Ft Hood shooting as workplace violence philosslayer Dec 2015 #21

I don't give a fuck what the Feds say, it was outright terrorism GGJohn Dec 2015 #26

I think the Feds know a bit more about what happened than you do. philosslayer Dec 2015 #34

And have the Feds called this a workplace violence incident yet? GGJohn Dec 2015 #44

*sigh* Reading comprehension anyone? philosslayer Dec 2015 #46

Thank you for saying that things could change as more facts are unearthed. GGJohn Dec 2015 #53

Unlike some in this room... philosslayer Dec 2015 #58

Point taken. GGJohn Dec 2015 #62

A parallel melman Dec 2015 #71

I suggested nothing philosslayer Dec 2015 #73

Gullible much? Nt Logical Dec 2015 #78

I think the feds know how to put a guy in prison without making extra work for themselves. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #87

Excellent Point The Roux Comes First Dec 2015 #92

You are 100% correct on this! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #79

Actually, I believe that with the passage of the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act....... WillowTree Dec 2015 #99

You sound like this is the first you've heard of this Yupster Dec 2015 #49

The government was wrong. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #18

We have always been at war with Eastasia 6chars Dec 2015 #27

DoD ass-covering is not to be taken seriously Codeine Dec 2015 #36

Bingo The Roux Comes First Dec 2015 #91

You really beleive that?? Kilgore Dec 2015 #57

Hasan was in contact with Anwar Awlaki Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #112

Not sure. Remains to be seen. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #2

And Hassan was a terrorist. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #3

Not by the government's broken definition Recursion Dec 2015 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Cayenne Dec 2015 #43

It was reclassified as terrorism leftynyc Dec 2015 #121

this event does not mean anything yet... chillfactor Dec 2015 #4

I can buy the workplace explanation for one shooter, but three? stranger81 Dec 2015 #6

It might be just two--- trumad Dec 2015 #8

I also just saw that the LAT is naming one of the suspects. stranger81 Dec 2015 #17

Shouldn't people be shouting about Islamic terrorism? Codeine Dec 2015 #40

IMO the other 1 or 2 could just have been LiberalElite Dec 2015 #31

Your verbiage leaves out two of the three shooters. They killed these people, not he, they. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #7

the ATF agent just on KNBC seemed convinced that it was thoroughly planned tishaLA Dec 2015 #9

Hasan was a terrorist as well. Codeine Dec 2015 #10

+1000. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #15

Yep. Most terrorists ALSO have their personal demons. Shooting up a building of strangers is bettyellen Dec 2015 #16

Bingo itsrobert Dec 2015 #22

Sarcasm? DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #12

No sarcasm philosslayer Dec 2015 #25

The Ft Hood victims DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #63

OP thinks reduction ad absurdam is clever argumentation, so he alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #30

If you are near a television.... philosslayer Dec 2015 #64

Oh Lawd alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #69

I don't have a "strategy" philosslayer Dec 2015 #70

The old alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #74

Oh.. .and decaf philosslayer Dec 2015 #76

CNN, MSNBC, and CBS philosslayer Dec 2015 #81

no, Major Hasan was not workplace violence, it was Islamic fundamentlist terrorism. What do you still_one Dec 2015 #19

I still think, like many unhinged killers he was spurned on by some personal failure... bettyellen Dec 2015 #42

NBC just spelled the name FAROOK. I'd like to know where you're getting your information from. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #20

My apologies. I've changed the post. philosslayer Dec 2015 #29

Why is that so many people Texasgal Dec 2015 #23

Because it's that thing called proof. trumad Dec 2015 #28

We have more than enough proof that Texasgal Dec 2015 #35

Yep... trumad Dec 2015 #38

I said "appears to be" at first blush philosslayer Dec 2015 #45

Especially considering the way people like us Codeine Dec 2015 #33

I'm not calling it terrorism and I'm not ruling it out. RandySF Dec 2015 #37

I guess it could be both. It obviously wasn't random, but there may have TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #24

It could have been a combo- shoot up the place but do it like ISIS eom LiberalElite Dec 2015 #41

But three people showing up? RandySF Dec 2015 #32

Syed Farook, named earlier seems to be a former employee there..... bettyellen Dec 2015 #39

Exactly my point philosslayer Dec 2015 #47

I think when you target a group of strangers, it is terrorism. Most terrorists are failures at life. bettyellen Dec 2015 #51

If he was a former employee then why he there to begin with? 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #56

Same reason a General Dynamics laid-off employee left his workplace,but returned the next week... haele Dec 2015 #103

But he wasn't laid off or fired. His coworkers said they liked him. B2G Dec 2015 #109

Then that appears not to be the motive in this shooting. haele Dec 2015 #111

Don't be intellectually dishonest just because he is Muslim FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #48

Hope that knee doesn't cause a bruise as it jerks into your face philosslayer Dec 2015 #52

Logic. FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #54

So its "definitely" terrorism because of "logic" philosslayer Dec 2015 #55

Yep FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #60

I'm not sure, but it seems to me the guy who posted the OP felt he knew the motives... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #59

Consult a dictionary philosslayer Dec 2015 #61

Well... you sure went to great lengths to defend "appears to be", while arguing Hassan wasn't cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #86

I wasn't "arguing Hassan wasn't a terrorist" philosslayer Dec 2015 #88

The federal government was full of shit SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2015 #93

The Federal Government can go fuck itself on that count as far as I'm concerned. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #94

Workplace violence doesn't usually include others in masks and tactical gear flamingdem Dec 2015 #50

Of course it isn't workplace violence FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #65

I'm watching MSNBC discuss that possibility as we speak philosslayer Dec 2015 #68

Oh, you mean like the obviously racist football ref? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #97

And enlisting two other people? jberryhill Dec 2015 #66

They were also very angry about things at their respective workplaces. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #77

Kind of like Strangers on a Train meets Horrible Bosses? jberryhill Dec 2015 #80

Like that, with a little Throw Momma From the Train on the side. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #82

That was the other one on my mind jberryhill Dec 2015 #84

well, we do have an important question that will need to be answered. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #89

I'm glad you see the humor in all of this. philosslayer Dec 2015 #90

There is a fine line between humor and despair jberryhill Dec 2015 #95

I shouldn't need to explain this, but... DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #96

If you have the time philosslayer Dec 2015 #98

The "analysis" was bullshit, as always. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #116

Then please inform the President philosslayer Dec 2015 #117

Seems you've learned nothing. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #118

not just "someone". The President of the United States philosslayer Dec 2015 #119

That's an 'appeal to authority' friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #120

Where did the other two work? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #67

It would be the first case ever of a disgrunted co-worker getting other people to help shoot.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #72

Shhh FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #75

Mark my words. This Saad Farooq will be the right-wing's wet dream ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #85

if it were a lone shooter I would agree. multiple people involved tells me this is something more rollin74 Dec 2015 #83

The President just affirmed this possibility as well philosslayer Dec 2015 #100

He also affirmed the possbility that it was terrorism. B2G Dec 2015 #101

And he gets the award for the most awesomely prepared disgruntled employee yet. peace13 Dec 2015 #102

Question about long guns.... peace13 Dec 2015 #104

According to the reports he enjoyed target shooting. bklyncowgirl Dec 2015 #106

I wonder about his wife. peace13 Dec 2015 #107

Capitalism Creates Mass Murderers by Causing People to 'Malfunction' Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #105

Ummm 1939 Dec 2015 #113

While we argue this point at DU, over on the right, it's a slam dunk KamaAina Dec 2015 #108

That's the difference between us and them philosslayer Dec 2015 #110

Didn't take you long to declare Dear a "terrorist" 1939 Dec 2015 #114

There was nothing pointing to workplace violence KamaAina Dec 2015 #115