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32. "admiring a technology designed for death verses one designed for pleasure"< My 1966 VW.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:46 PM

Dec 2015

That said, I can admire the technology of war without admiring the war. For example, moon landings, the Internet, tremendous medical advances in emergency medicine - things we may not have seen without the situations that necessitated them. Ugliness isn't the opposite of beauty, it's a component of it.

You include death and pleasure, but you forget the category of simply staying alive in the meantime. That's where those excel, and where they appear.

Maybe we could do it another way, but this is the path we have chosen.

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I would question the sanity of anyone who would purchase an assault/military style weapon [View all] G_j Dec 2015 OP

Agree marym625 Dec 2015 #1

What a great point. Why isn't that brought up more often? still_one Dec 2015 #2

Heh. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #73

There are thousands of competitive target shooters that would disagree hack89 Dec 2015 #3

You can do thaat with a single shot 22. Pretend it's the Olympics. Photographer Dec 2015 #12

I think not. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #13

Why not? Wanna be like Annie Oakly and shoot silver dollars out of the sky or something? Photographer Dec 2015 #14

you can target shoot competitively with a BB gun RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #47

It's not an assault rifle, it's a semi-automatic rifle. Waldorf Dec 2015 #64

Oh EXCUUUUUUUSE Me! RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #68

You can kill someone with a BB gun, too. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #77

Careful you'll shoot your eye out. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #108

Cute. Ammosexual. Minds me of words I heard in elementary school during recess. Waldorf Dec 2015 #83

way to go Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #101

...or throw lawn darts!!! bvar22 Dec 2015 #76

yes, certainly G_j Dec 2015 #78

Played a lot of lawn darts back in the 70's. Waldorf Dec 2015 #84

How does everyone else know that? treestar Dec 2015 #111

If the government was willing to pay the millions hack89 Dec 2015 #120

People purchase all kinds of things they don't need. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #4

"Need" versus "Want" maxsolomon Dec 2015 #5

"it's ingrained in our culture" bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #18

do you live in Merica? maxsolomon Dec 2015 #33

I have NEVER owned a gun, shot one or even touched one. Hepburn Dec 2015 #121

That's great, me too. But American Culture is your culture maxsolomon Dec 2015 #122

No being an American is a culture being a gun bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #133

we are not going to agree maxsolomon Dec 2015 #134

yes, how do we know for sure treestar Dec 2015 #114

Fortunately, in any meaningful sense, that opinion and $3 will get you a $3 cup of coffee... TipTok Dec 2015 #6

Actually Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #19

Much as your own response. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #23

Absolutely... TipTok Dec 2015 #24

Well...... zipplewrath Dec 2015 #7

there is no comparison tk2kewl Dec 2015 #22

Oh there is zipplewrath Dec 2015 #26

Finding something interesting, even awesome is different from finding it admirable IMO tk2kewl Dec 2015 #58

Weapons zipplewrath Dec 2015 #69

I guess I misunderstood your post about the flying weapons tk2kewl Dec 2015 #132

separate the tool from the task. zipplewrath Dec 2015 #135

i'll disagree with you on that tk2kewl Dec 2015 #136

hunting zipplewrath Dec 2015 #141

"admiring a technology designed for death verses one designed for pleasure"< My 1966 VW. jtuck004 Dec 2015 #32

I think it's weird too gwheezie Dec 2015 #8

But, but, but, their assault weapons look so virile. -none Dec 2015 #9

Which is why 1939 Dec 2015 #38

You are purposely missing the point. -none Dec 2015 #56

Soldier and Army Civilian for a total of 33 years 1939 Dec 2015 #59

All that plastic was not available in the 1980's -none Dec 2015 #62

Tennite and nylon appeared in production civilian weapons in the 50s. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #70

Wrong. GGJohn Dec 2015 #140

If they need virility RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #48

Or Viagra. -none Dec 2015 #57

The 200-Foot Penise raises its ugly head at last! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #71

But but but malaise Dec 2015 #10

Must be nice for you krispos42 Dec 2015 #11

Kings have power maxsolomon Dec 2015 #39

No, Krispos, the gun nuts defined assault weapon a long time ago. flamin lib Dec 2015 #52

Not so fast... Kang Colby Dec 2015 #113

Not so fast! flamin lib Dec 2015 #117

Excellent post! trumad Dec 2015 #119

That type of weapon is for one thing and one thing only: killing multiple humans quickly. Vinca Dec 2015 #15

"But, but, but.....target practice!!" smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #34

Or if you're a terrorist. 840high Dec 2015 #40

Did you notice none of those magazines use the term "assault weapon"? Recursion Dec 2015 #91

The label doesn't matter. Only what it does. Vinca Dec 2015 #99

Now we're getting somewhere! Assault weapons do the same thing as other weapons Recursion Dec 2015 #102

Wait--I see the term "assault weapon" thucythucy Dec 2015 #128

So If I try to shoot a target or pesky groundhog Elmergantry Dec 2015 #104

Anyone who thinks a ban on "assault weapons" Elmergantry Dec 2015 #105

What is a common factor in the majority of mass shootings? Vinca Dec 2015 #107

They are used quite often becasue Elmergantry Dec 2015 #112

You must be a wonderful shot if you have to spray ammunition to hit a target or a groundhog. Vinca Dec 2015 #106

So you are saying its Elmergantry Dec 2015 #109

So if that's all it does, then everyone who own's one must use it for that, right? n/t hughee99 Dec 2015 #137

Therein lies the problem TheCowsCameHome Dec 2015 #16

I would question the sanity of anyone who moondust Dec 2015 #17

I would question the sanity of anyone Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #20

People complain they have little power and say. Well, here we are! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #72

What about those that purchase a counter-assault weapon? ileus Dec 2015 #21

How about my Batman knife? Reter Dec 2015 #25

So, take Lanza's mom. She didn't purchase an assault weapon. Recursion Dec 2015 #27

I revised my subject line G_j Dec 2015 #30

How is the actual argument you're making a "disctraction"? Recursion Dec 2015 #31

your argument G_j Dec 2015 #54

If you can't even distinguish between "assault rifle" and "assault weapon" why do you bother Recursion Dec 2015 #93

my bolt action rifles Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #103

I own a rifle with a bayonet lug 1939 Dec 2015 #41

It is a Battle Rifle. The 'assault rifle's' big, semi-automatic brother. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #44

My wife said 1939 Dec 2015 #51

I wish I knew you then; you could have had my husband's. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #55

If anyone is interested, I think a workable solution doesn't require a ban, but a change in classifi AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #45

I have loved that idea for a while Recursion Dec 2015 #95

That's a great idea too. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #97

If Lanza's mom had keep the gun safe door secured, ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #65

I live in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and Glimmer of Hope Dec 2015 #28

I really don't get that statement. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #29

Wingnuts are now declaring humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #35

I agree. I would never be friends with someone who felt the need to smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #36

frankly, I do not care if you have a backyard nuke DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #37

Did NORMAL people feel they NEEDED a Tommy Gun during prohibition? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #42

Not a need, no. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #63

Back then you could buy grenades too. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #82

I own at least two. I am not insane. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #43

I would also question RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #46

ww-m-m-m-o-O-O-OM-BAT!! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #74

Hey, I want a shoulder mounted rocket launcher with nuclear capability. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #49

Indeed prouddemfromaustin44 Dec 2015 #50

A sane person would purchase one. sonofspy777 Dec 2015 #53

I feel the same way about cats Egnever Dec 2015 #60

+1 cleanhippie Dec 2015 #61

Talk about assault weapons. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #75

You can't trust them. beevul Dec 2015 #129

That second one looks to be coyote hunting, for some peculiar reason. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #130

It is not the looks that draw in the owners. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #66

I own a couple of the them (are semi-automatic no assault weapons). Waldorf Dec 2015 #67

Why, you are insane!! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #131

Need? No. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #79

In spite of "popular knowlege" at DU, bvar22 Dec 2015 #80

Something I hadn't known G_j Dec 2015 #81

No need for special hunting permits. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #88

I've shot one. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #85

Simply because they are exceptionally dangerous nt G_j Dec 2015 #86

A common misconception. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #87

No more so than hunting rifles. Recursion Dec 2015 #94

A gun launches projectiles. They are all dangerous. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author shanti Dec 2015 #89

Sanity is in the eye of the beholder Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #90

I would question the sanity of a country that has been at war for 14 years with no endpoint in sight Rex Dec 2015 #92

I question the sanity of anyone who thinks the way you do. Heck, who needs an SUV? Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #96

Yes I am a bit of a novice on firearms. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #115

What I have been told is that the AR-15s were popular because you could buy Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #124

Interesting Elmergantry Dec 2015 #125

Of the couple people who I know madokie Dec 2015 #100

I have several. What's your question? aikoaiko Dec 2015 #110

I'm going to buy one next year I think TeddyR Dec 2015 #116

Couple grand? Ouch! Elmergantry Dec 2015 #127

So would I. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #118

In triplicate. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2015 #123

Exactly. There's already something "off" about you if you think you "need" one villager Dec 2015 #126

Do you believe they're "more powerful" in some way than non military-style weapon? Recursion Dec 2015 #138

Split hairs, really. There's something off about the whole veneration of war grade weapons... villager Dec 2015 #139