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Cal Carpenter

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68. Thanks for elaborating on the info in the OP

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:17 PM

Dec 2015

"I doubt the police would have investigated in either circumstance."

Afaic, that is the bottom line. Unless the neighbor or worker saw something that isn't being mentioned, like tactical vests in the driveway or piles of ammo on the porch, there is no reason for the cops to investigate. 'Reporting' these allegedly suspicious people would have been seen as a nuisance call.

It seems there are people here who are using this example as a reason to expect cops to knock on doors of brown-skinned people who look 'middle eastern' and...well, I'm not sure what. Search their homes? Take their computers for examination?

I understand people react emotionally and it is sort of natural to think 'what if...' but I think it would behoove people to take a step back and listen to themselves and what they are actually arguing for because as I said way upthread, it isn't just a slippery slope we are talking about, it is a cliff. A cliff we went over after 9/11 with the result of destroying the lives and families of innocent Americans because their religion, skin color and nationality made them 'suspicious' to someone.

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Man in neighborhood did not want to racially profile Farook [View all] cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 OP

Twas NOT the neighbor, but a man working in the area,,,,, benld74 Dec 2015 #1

Good catch. Doesn't really change anything, though. cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #2

What would you report? I am honestly curious. uppityperson Dec 2015 #5

Don't know, really. I suppose that I'd report feeling suspicious, the way this guy apparently did. cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #18

Lots of packages? Where did you get that? GusBob Dec 2015 #39

My friend is off Scotch-Danish ancestry 5 generations back but has tanned skin, dark hair, bushy uppityperson Dec 2015 #58

Well, exactly. What DO you report? And let's say the cops actually rolled up Nay Dec 2015 #40

Why don't you change your OP headline to be less false? nt greyl Dec 2015 #10

OK, done. Don't really see how it makes much of a difference. n/t cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #19

Clarify: not a neighbor GusBob Dec 2015 #3

He did racially profile them, just didn't report that there were middle eastern men staying in uppityperson Dec 2015 #4

How did the person know they were Middle Eastern men? blogslut Dec 2015 #6

I'm guessing because they looked Middle Eastern. n/t cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #20

What does Middle Eastern look like? blogslut Dec 2015 #34

Google can help you with this: cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #44

Haha blogslut Dec 2015 #45

Like....I dunno...A Middle Eastern dude theboss Dec 2015 #50

So... blogslut Dec 2015 #52

I didn't mention Austrians. I assume all Austrians look like the Von Trapp family. theboss Dec 2015 #55

There are no black people in Australia? Seriously? uppityperson Dec 2015 #59

All Australians look like Greg Norman and Olivia Newton John theboss Dec 2015 #60

Ah, you fall back on the "I didn't mean it, was only joking" to excuse bigotry? Huh. Nt uppityperson Dec 2015 #62

No, I mean it. theboss Dec 2015 #65

"911, what's your emergency?" alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #7

Things like this could pretty much paralyze law enforcement. bklyncowgirl Dec 2015 #9

Exactly. Iggo Dec 2015 #35

This is a slippery slope philosslayer Dec 2015 #8

Naw, it's a fucking cliff Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #16

As it turns out, though, they were up to no good. His suspicions were sound. n/t cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #21

How do we know that? VMA131Marine Dec 2015 #32

you know this how, exactly? 0rganism Dec 2015 #43

I live across the street from a Muslim family and there are many in my neighborhood. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #11

It's sickening to think, but this shooting will actually help Trump's call to "register all Muslims" Bucky Dec 2015 #12

Really? You can imagine how the 'neighbor' felt? Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #13

You do understand these people did actually kill 14 people, right? cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #22

Okay, I'll play Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #24

Something unusual in the neighborhood's history nt flamingdem Dec 2015 #27

The guy quoted doesn't live in the neighborhood. How would he know? Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #28

Here's the thing, though. cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #41

Here's the other thing, though Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #48

Of course. Any sane person can see that melman Dec 2015 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author GusBob Dec 2015 #57

Is being Pakistani middle east or Indian? I always thought Indian. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #29

South Asian Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #31

Ok. I said Indian as they were formed from a part of India, but South Asian makes more sense I guess LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #36

I think here in the US we use middle eastern to describe a larger area than the people Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #42

You are more than correct. I can not imagine a Pakistani would tolerate being called Indian at all. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #47

I was told Pakistan is derived from Persian, Arab, Kurdish, and Indian. SolutionisSolidarity Dec 2015 #38

The country of Pakistan developed from India. elleng Dec 2015 #51

Sorry, these folks that go to the middle east and come back redstateblues Dec 2015 #53

A man that was working in the area. Sissyk Dec 2015 #14

OK, I did. What difference does it make? n/t cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #23

Well, now it looks like you may have read the article before posting. n/t Sissyk Dec 2015 #25

LOL Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #33

Fair enough. n/t cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #46

Did this suspicious neighbor actually witness anything, you know, suspcious? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2015 #15

Seriously. Matariki Dec 2015 #37

I'm a renter surrounded by wealthy people. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #17

Suspects left three explosive devices rigged to a remote-controlled toy car inside at the Inland Reg flamingdem Dec 2015 #26

Since most suspects in mass shootings are young white men, maybe that's where we should profile. Glassunion Dec 2015 #30

So...Middle-Eastern-looking people aren't allowed to have visitors? jeff47 Dec 2015 #54

What nonsense ... Trajan Dec 2015 #56

Sounds like a racist creep who wants his 15 minutes to me philosslayer Dec 2015 #61

Racial profiling fear stopped neighbor reporting suspects Heeeeers Johnny Dec 2015 #63

Thanks for elaborating on the info in the OP Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #68

14 dead and for what? Racial guilt? LittleBlue Dec 2015 #64

And report what, exactly? A middle eastern couple has visitors who are middle eastern? jeff47 Dec 2015 #66

It does not sound like they saw anything really suspicious karynnj Dec 2015 #67